Dunkirk... It´s a film to watch standing up w/ a hand on the heart.

[colker]

Because.. it´s the finest in cinema directing. It´s the finest in reproducing life experiences w/ image and music.
It´s also guided by conservative thinking where men are defined by character... not by how we understand politics or economics but how we react under pressure, under fire.

[chasea]

I dunno man. Have you seen Pootie Tang?

[bking]

good movie. great story.

[mzilliox]

I dunno man. Have you seen Pootie Tang?

wadda ta my damey

[colker]

I dunno man. Have you seen Pootie Tang?

And????

[colker]

wadda ta my damey

Don´t judge people by their "conscience".. but by their attitudes. It always works.

Christopher Nolan is too good as a director and he takes conservative thinking to the finest level.

[jclay]

Because.. it´s the finest in cinema directing. It´s the finest in reproducing life experiences w/ image and music.
It´s also guided by conservative thinking where men are defined by character... not by how we understand politics or economics but how we react under pressure, under fire.

Are you suggesting that progressive thinkers, or whatever you consider to be non-conservative, who happen to understand politics, economics or whatever else lack character and are incapable of valor under pressure and in combat?

[colker]

Are you suggesting that progressive thinkers, or whatever you consider to be non-conservative, who happen to understand politics, economics or whatever else lack character and are incapable of valor under pressure and in combat?

Of course not.. I said something different: you can only judge people by their actions in extreme circumstances. Most of the time people are being judged by their opinions and this is stupid.
One is judged a bad person because he votes republican or because he shops at walmart. This is ridiculous.

Some feel they are better because of their opinions, their shopping or eating habits, their recycling. It´s too easy.

[jclay]

Of course not.. I said something different: you can only judge people by their actions in extreme circumstances. Most of the time people are being judged by their opinions and this is stupid.
One is judged a bad person because he votes republican or because he shops at walmart. This is ridiculous.

Some feel they are better because of their opinions, their shopping or eating habits, their recycling. It´s too easy.

Good. I understand your point but I don't entirely agree with your generalization or its framework. Combat or other perilous activities are but one type of arena and way in which character may be tested.

Every person alive now is the distillate of millenia of human conflict. We're pretty well evolved to fight when it comes right down to crunch time. Personally, and where sensible, I view restraint by the strong to be more indicative of character than most other activities but even there it's horses for courses.

I'm usually more interested in the reasons people vote this way or that way, or do this or that.

[theflashunc]

He's on a "One good movie for every two terrible ones" kick for me.

I thought it was fine, but other than the production values wasn't all that much to write home about.

Same class as Speilberg's Lincoln for me, way too much schmaltz.

[colker]

Good. I understand your point but I don't entirely agree with your generalization or its framework. Combat or other perilous activities are but one type of arena and way in which character may be tested.

Every person alive now is the distillate of millenia of human conflict. We're pretty well evolved to fight when it comes right down to crunch time. Personally, and where sensible, I view restraint by the strong to be more indicative of character than most other activities but even there it's horses for courses.

I'm usually more interested in the reasons people vote this way or that way, or do this or that.

I like your reasoning.
i have been interested in finding the principles that define progressive and conservative thinking it´s been quite a long time. I believe both can be complex and sophisticated.
I think you cannot chose those ideas in abstract. it´s the circumstance, where you are, which society you are living in that says which one is right. If you are in the US it´s one thing while if you are in Latin America it´s another. China, Eastern Europe, Russia... each society calls for a different reasoning.

[colker]

He's on a "One good movie for every two terrible ones" kick for me.

I thought it was fine, but other than the production values wasn't all that much to write home about.

Same class as Speilberg's Lincoln for me, way too much schmaltz.

Yup. His sci fi fantasies don´t grab my attention.
I find the way he used music to play w/ our emotions in this movie to be absolutely brilliant. it´s a throwback to Hitchcock and classic film making and it works beautifully.

[rowdyhillrambler]

I dunno man. Have you seen Pootie Tang?

Thursday night we watched 'pootie tang' and 'CB4'.... both cinematic marks of excellence.

[Too Tall]

I did not think the film was political. Experiential is a word I'd use.

[colker]

I did not think the film was political. Experiential is a word I'd use.

The main scene in the movie is the one where the scots (highlanders) hide inside the boat. Then the germans start shooting and one has to go outside (and probably get shot). That scene is about how nationalism(politics) is used to justify cowardice. It´s a great scene that goes back to war movies like The Iron cross.

[joosttx]

I dunno man. Have you seen Pootie Tang?

I read somewhere, I think the New Yorker, they are making a Pootie Tang 2 with the original cast. As I recall the plot centers around them getting stranded in Van Nuys. Should be a good one.

[mzilliox]

I read somewhere, I think the New Yorker, they are making a Pootie Tang 2 with the original cast. As I recall the plot centers around them getting stranded in Van Nuys. Should be a good one.

Oh i really hope so. Pootie Tang is serious genius. Not everyone will get that sort of genius, but that doesn't make it any less so.

[rowdyhillrambler]

i like the way this thread went from a serious discussion of probably a serious movie, i havent seen it, to 4 of us talking about "Pootie Tang."

[mzilliox]

i like the way this thread went from a serious discussion of probably a serious movie, i havent seen it, to 4 of us talking about "Pootie Tang."

Goes to show how good a movie Pootie Tang is. I don't do war movies and horror movies, as if they are different.

[summilux]

Saw it yesterday and have good and bad things to day about it. Cinematography was great and definitely a film to see in a cinema. The ship and plane sinking scenes were incredible. But the storyline was simplistic and I felt that the movie could have been made longer to give more time for the actors to interact with each other. It was a bit schmaltzy and it felt too much like preachy propaganda. The "I'm staying for the French" line was a real eye roller. My favourite war movie remains the Thin Red Line.