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    Default The world is officially upside down.

    Elvis has left the building.
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    Hillary Clinton... what a fiasco. The old guard of american politics is gone. In a way the people said enough. I really hope Trump surprises everyone as a good president as much as he surprised the establishment by winning the election.
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    In before the lock!

    I hope he starts acting like a president. The Clintons are done. But the president elect now has a lot of nerves to calm and soon. Financial markets are gonna tank and my overseas folks are very nervous about this huge shift.

    Today is the day for Trump to act like a president and not a candidate.
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    Act like a president? I'm not sure he knows how to do that. He is who he is.
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    Default Re: The world is officially upside down.

    Quote Originally Posted by colker View Post
    Elvis has left the building.
    I'm back now. I was on a bike ride. Ya'll should ride a bit today too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElvisMerckx View Post
    I'm back now. I was on a bike ride. Ya'll should ride a bit today too.
    That will happen for sure. As soon as the sun comes up I'm off for a long walk to clear my head!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    In before the lock!

    I hope he starts acting like a president. The Clintons are done. But the president elect now has a lot of nerves to calm and soon. Financial markets are gonna tank and my overseas folks are very nervous about this huge shift.

    Today is the day for Trump to act like a president and not a candidate.
    My gut feeling says it was way better to have him win... It brings the monster to the clear. The monster is the resentment against diversity, imigration, the intellectual establishment and once it's given an opportunity to deal w/ the institutions, it will mellow out. Tensions within the american society will be resolved. If Hillary won, tensions would ehighten, resentment would rise.
    Trump's win is the triumph of democracy: no matter how wrong we think others think.. they are citizens and must be represented otherwise we end in a decadent pseudo aristocratic society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker View Post
    My gut feeling says it was way better to have him win... It brings the monster to the clear. The monster is the resentment against diversity, imigration, the intellectual establishment and once it's given an opportunity to deal w/ the institutions, it will mellow out. Tensions within the american society will be resolved. If Hillary won, tensions would ehighten, resentment would rise.
    Trump's win is the triumph of democracy: no matter how wrong we think others think.. they are citizens and must be represented otherwise we end in a decadent pseudo aristocratic society.
    My biggest fears are an unhinged person who creates a constitutional crisis. Hopefully those fears are unfounded.
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    We've seen this before. President Andrew Jackson, etc. He was elected by a global economic shift away from the people who voted for him. Similar upheavals are happening in other countries. He's made a lot of promises, and he'll have to keep them. This country ain't a casino. But I think he probably knows that.

    NYC is as quiet as a Sunday funeral though. Gray day. Supposed to rain.

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    First the Brexit... now Trump. We are watching a revolution of sorts: people are saying they won't accept established wisdom, the well behaved academic truth. There is a lot of risk but things are moving and moving faster than our capacity to understand, criticize, antagonize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker View Post
    First the Brexit... now Trump. We are watching a revolution of sorts: people are saying they won't accept established wisdom, the well behaved academic truth. There is a lot of risk but things are moving and moving faster than our capacity to understand, criticize, antagonize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker View Post
    My gut feeling says it was way better to have him win... It brings the monster to the clear. The monster is the resentment against diversity, imigration, the intellectual establishment and once it's given an opportunity to deal w/ the institutions, it will mellow out. Tensions within the american society will be resolved. If Hillary won, tensions would ehighten, resentment would rise.
    Trump's win is the triumph of democracy: no matter how wrong we think others think.. they are citizens and must be represented otherwise we end in a decadent pseudo aristocratic society.
    You just want to see the American version of car wash in 3 years.
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    Beware of the grand sweeping statements about the questions regarding life the universe and everything.

    BTW Colker, how's Brazil doing?
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    Colker is right. The people have spoken. This is democracy, even if you don't agree with the outcome. For the record - I didn't vote for him. I hope he surprises us, not because I want to see him succeed, but because I want to see US succeed. He's not stupid. This whole campaign I've wondered how much of what he says he actually believes vs he said just to win votes.

    In on the plus side, hopefully the Clintons will now GO AWAY. America is just as done with the Team Clinton as we are with Team Bush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgaddis View Post
    Colker is right. The people have spoken....
    I know how it works and I'm not disagreeing with the outcome, but it does appear (so far) that Clinton won the popular vote. So, the delegates have spoken, really, aided by a good deal of gerrymandering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    Beware of the grand sweeping statements about the questions regarding life the universe and everything.

    BTW Colker, how's Brazil doing?
    Brazil is a prime example of people chosing conservatism. After 13 yrs of the Left in power and a horrible recession brought by their incompetence. At least the recession brought down their rulling.. i could not stand anymore the ideology in place of ethics, the smearing campaigns against anyone who questioned the leftist morality (they traded the law for leftist moralism and freedom of speech was in their way).
    Congress brought them down and there is an anti corruption operation that's bringing down almost every politician and their ties w/ the state oil company. Recession is still on, ideology feuds still on but future is arriving fast and brutal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker View Post
    First the Brexit... now Trump. We are watching a revolution of sorts: people are saying they won't accept established wisdom, the well behaved academic truth. There is a lot of risk but things are moving and moving faster than our capacity to understand, criticize, antagonize.
    The problem with Brexit is that not even the British government has a clear picture of it!

    And those are the moments you feel blessed as Italian: any f*cked up goverment won't last more than one year anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gattonero View Post
    The problem with Brexit is that not even the British government has a clear picture of it!

    And those are the moments you feel blessed as Italian: any f*cked up goverment won't last more than one year anyway
    Parlamentarism(?) is better than presidentialism.
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    The Canadian Immigration website crashed last night because of too much traffic. Deeply concerning for Canada. If Trump rips up NAFTA, Canada is in deep doo doo. Maybe Trump is better than the campaign rhetoric. His victory speech sounded quite presidential and conciliatory.
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    The campaign has been marked by everything in extremes. I hope like hell things start moderating more toward the middle. I haven't gotten a damn thing right so far, though. I think the best thing is for everybody to get involved with trying to get things back on the rails. There are actual good ideas from both sides of the political spectrum but with so many freaking echo chambers out there so much isn't being heard and given the rational discussion and argument it deserves.
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