Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
The elementary principles of sound design and fabrication skills (and experience) supersede
the beautiful (or not) embellishments that make a bicycle art worthy of discovery atmo.
-Frank Lloyd Not Always Wright

I'm pretty sure we're not on the same page.

Frank Lloyd built more than just "homes." He built with a philosphy, a design, influence, fluidity. His customers didn't come to him because they wanted just a home. They wanted something more. He gave them more.

You can call your bikes whatever you want or build for whatever reasons you desire, but your idea that "we build tools, machines, etc" falls short of the truth. I don't want to be part of that "we." I'm not part of that "we." There is more.

I personally like your bikes. They are clean, simple, and have good lines. You as the artisan, artist, creator, whatever you want to be called had a vision when you built it of what you think it should be. I like to think you pour your all into every bike you build and create a deeper bond with recipient of your bikes.

I don't for one second think I am JUST building machines, tools, vehicles. Yes, sound prinicples, skills, deisgn criteria are a must, but I think at this point in the conversation we are beyond that.