The direction of society lately

[72gmc]

The worst thing is that every time one of these happens we hear “ the perpetrator is known to police …” , this guy has seemingly had 30 interactions with police in the last couple of years.

Is it an issue of law, or has Canada joined the general trend of shuttering mental health and other services while expecting law enforcement to provide services beyond their training and capabilities?

[zachateseverything]

It's because all alcohol sold in Ontario, other than beer, is wholesaled and/or retailed through the Liquor Control Board of Ontario (LCBO, affectionately known as Lick-Bo). You can get wine and beer in retail grocery stores but their selection isn't so great and those stores deal with the LCBO wholesale monopoly. Also no hard liquor is sold in grocery stores. There are a few privatew wine importers but those are not big volume purchases. So pretty much all booze, except for beer, goes through LCBO. I've been told that Quebec, which has a similar system, is the 2nd largest buyer of alcohol in the world.

A number of US states have a similar setup. I'm just surprised that Ontario comes out on top.

[thollandpe]

It’s coming fast and furious, but here’s one thing that frightens me about what we have become:

In Oklahoma City, ICE shock troops—20 armed agents—staged a no-knock pre-dawn home invasion, forced a woman and her two young daughters outside in the rain and in their underwear, while they tossed the contents of the house and seized their laptops, phones, and cash as “evidence.” The woman and her kids are US citizens, and had recently moved in. Their names do not match what was on the warrant, ICE was looking for someone else. No word on when they will get their property back, just an admission from ICE that they “know it was a little rough this morning.”

”What if I would have been armed? You’re breaking in. What am I supposed to think? My initial thought was we were being robbed—that my daughters, being females, were being kidnapped. You have guns pointed in our faces. Can you just reprogram yourself and see us as humans, as women? A little bit of mercy. Care a little bit about your fellow human, about your fellow citizen, fellow resident. We bleed too. We work. We bleed just like anybody else bleeds. We’re scared. You could see our faces that we were terrified. What makes you so much more worthier of your peace? What makes you so much more worthier of protecting your children? What makes you so much more worthy of your citizenship? What makes you more worthy of safety? Of being given the right that they took from me to protect my daughters?”

’We’re citizens!’: Oklahoma City family traumatized after ICE raids home, but they weren’t suspects | KFOR

There are many elements of our government currently out of control and doing real harm.

[htwoopup]

It’s coming fast and furious, but here’s one thing that frightens me about what we have become:

In Oklahoma City, ICE shock troops—20 armed agents—staged a no-knock pre-dawn home invasion, forced a woman and her two young daughters outside in the rain and in their underwear, while they tossed the contents of the house and seized their laptops, phones, and cash as “evidence.” The woman and her kids are US citizens, and had recently moved in. Their names do not match what was on the warrant, ICE was looking for someone else. No word on when they will get their property back, just an admission from ICE that they “know it was a little rough this morning.”

”What if I would have been armed? You’re breaking in. What am I supposed to think? My initial thought was we were being robbed—that my daughters, being females, were being kidnapped. You have guns pointed in our faces. Can you just reprogram yourself and see us as humans, as women? A little bit of mercy. Care a little bit about your fellow human, about your fellow citizen, fellow resident. We bleed too. We work. We bleed just like anybody else bleeds. We’re scared. You could see our faces that we were terrified. What makes you so much more worthier of your peace? What makes you so much more worthier of protecting your children? What makes you so much more worthy of your citizenship? What makes you more worthy of safety? Of being given the right that they took from me to protect my daughters?”

’We’re citizens!’: Oklahoma City family traumatized after ICE raids home, but they weren’t suspects | KFOR

There are many elements of our government currently out of control and doing real harm.

Let me shock you more....alongside the comment of I could free him (meaning Garcia) with a phone call but I won't, the EO he issued yesterday (STRENGTHENING AND UNLEASHING AMERICA’S LAW ENFORCEMENT TO PURSUE CRIMINALS AND PROTECT INNOCENT CITIZENS) removes all oversight and possible holding accountable any police officer etc for improper behavior AND instructs the Attorney General and SecDef to figure out how to make it possible to use the military domestically to "aid" local law enforcement in taking action in a "non-lethal" way. I think we are both old enough to remember Kent State and how non-lethal is only a legal cover that turns lethal. It is absolutely the authoritarian playbook. Absolutely the end of every freedom.

[BBB]

Pathetic!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ws-terry-moran

For all this make america great again BS, has he ever actually articulated when the country stopped being great and the reasons why? Has anyone (ie a journo or another politician) actually pressed him on this issue? Or is it just a BS slogan the terminally stupid swallow?

[robin3mj]

I read the below article in the Atlantic today and cannot wrap my head around the insanity.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...voters/682645/

It’s like saying the Hippocratic Oath is boring and you just want the doctor to do something dramati, like you see on Greys Anatomy. Then after the fact, bragging that while boring old Biden just recommended RICE (rest, ice, compression, elevation) for your twisted ankle and Trump accidentally-on-purpose amputated the wrong leg, at least The Donald is doing stuff.

[ldamelio]

Pathetic!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ws-terry-moran

Or is it just a BS slogan the terminally stupid swallow?

I believe you answered your own question.

[72gmc]

I read the below article in the Atlantic today and cannot wrap my head around the insanity.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...voters/682645/

It’s like saying the Hippocratic Oath is boring and you just want the doctor to do something dramati, like you see on Greys Anatomy. Then after the fact, bragging that while boring old Biden just recommended RICE (rest, ice, compression, elevation) for your twisted ankle and Trump accidentally-on-purpose amputated the wrong leg, at least The Donald is doing stuff.

This happens a lot, in my experience, in big tech. There are a lot of people, perhaps “trained” by digital media, who seem to genuinely believe that motion equals progress in all circumstances. Even with clear evidence that some motion is just wasted, just the illusion of goals being achieved or value being delivered, there are people who will insist on action before (or in spite of) thought. I equate this to the room full of ninjas scene from the movie From Russia with Love, e.g., we have no clear ninja-based need at this time, but let’s just invest in a room full of dudes dressed as ninjas with so that we can say we’re doing something.

[j44ke]

That's a line being repeated on radio and television. "At least he's doing something." Before the line was "it might be tough going for a while but it will be worth it." Marketing to lower expectations and create an identity group containing others with similarly lowered expectations.

[BBB]

I believe you answered your own question.

Still, someone should challenge Grandpa Mango on when America ceased to be great.

[Scott G.]

That's a line being repeated on radio and television. "At least he's doing something." [snip]

America has spun the "Regime Change Wheel of Chance" for itself instead of a foreign country
and being Americans we figure things will turn out all right.

Trump is merely the Jay Garner of America.

[Marvinlungwitz]

I will be buying my wife only two Hermes handbags this Christmas instead of thirty.

[j44ke]

I will be buying my wife only two Hermes handbags this Christmas instead of thirty.

In these times, we must all make sacrifices to assure the successful future of the country as a whole and of our faithful leader.

[rec head]

For all this make america great again BS, has he ever actually articulated when the country stopped being great and the reasons why? Has anyone (ie a journo or another politician) actually pressed him on this issue? Or is it just a BS slogan the terminally stupid swallow?

MAGA is BS but it is a great slogan. It means everything and nothing at the same time.

[gregl]

In these times, we must all make sacrifices to assure the successful future of the country as a whole and of our faithful leader.

Sounds like you are describing China and Mao during the Great Cultural Revolution. That's a great model for 21st century America, since it worked out so well for the hundreds of thousands to possibly millions who were killed...

Greg

[Doug Fattic]

Sounds like you are describing China and Mao during the Great Cultural Revolution. That's a great model for 21st century America, since it worked out so well for the hundreds of thousands to possibly millions who were killed...Greg

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic

[gregl]

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic

Yes, I realized it was sarcasm. Just adding some context for those who aren't aware of the history.

Greg

[72gmc]