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    Default The world is officially upside down.

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    Hillary Clinton... what a fiasco. The old guard of american politics is gone. In a way the people said enough. I really hope Trump surprises everyone as a good president as much as he surprised the establishment by winning the election.
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    In before the lock!

    I hope he starts acting like a president. The Clintons are done. But the president elect now has a lot of nerves to calm and soon. Financial markets are gonna tank and my overseas folks are very nervous about this huge shift.

    Today is the day for Trump to act like a president and not a candidate.
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    Act like a president? I'm not sure he knows how to do that. He is who he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    In before the lock!

    I hope he starts acting like a president. The Clintons are done. But the president elect now has a lot of nerves to calm and soon. Financial markets are gonna tank and my overseas folks are very nervous about this huge shift.

    Today is the day for Trump to act like a president and not a candidate.
    My gut feeling says it was way better to have him win... It brings the monster to the clear. The monster is the resentment against diversity, imigration, the intellectual establishment and once it's given an opportunity to deal w/ the institutions, it will mellow out. Tensions within the american society will be resolved. If Hillary won, tensions would ehighten, resentment would rise.
    Trump's win is the triumph of democracy: no matter how wrong we think others think.. they are citizens and must be represented otherwise we end in a decadent pseudo aristocratic society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker View Post
    My gut feeling says it was way better to have him win... It brings the monster to the clear. The monster is the resentment against diversity, imigration, the intellectual establishment and once it's given an opportunity to deal w/ the institutions, it will mellow out. Tensions within the american society will be resolved. If Hillary won, tensions would ehighten, resentment would rise.
    Trump's win is the triumph of democracy: no matter how wrong we think others think.. they are citizens and must be represented otherwise we end in a decadent pseudo aristocratic society.
    My biggest fears are an unhinged person who creates a constitutional crisis. Hopefully those fears are unfounded.
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    I fear his supporters. Like the ones who tagged the neighborhood south of mine with Nazi/Trump graffiti this morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    My biggest fears are an unhinged person who creates a constitutional crisis. Hopefully those fears are unfounded.
    Let's not leave out nuclear crisis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker View Post
    My gut feeling says it was way better to have him win... It brings the monster to the clear. The monster is the resentment against diversity, imigration, the intellectual establishment and once it's given an opportunity to deal w/ the institutions, it will mellow out. Tensions within the american society will be resolved. If Hillary won, tensions would ehighten, resentment would rise.
    Trump's win is the triumph of democracy: no matter how wrong we think others think.. they are citizens and must be represented otherwise we end in a decadent pseudo aristocratic society.
    You just want to see the American version of car wash in 3 years.
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    Beware of the grand sweeping statements about the questions regarding life the universe and everything.

    BTW Colker, how's Brazil doing?
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    I don't know that anyone in American public life has had as long and persistent a campaign of character assassination aimed at them as has Hillary. I too hope that Trump shocks the shit out of all of us by being a good president rather than the corporate-Christofascist robot that his party probably wants him to be!
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker View Post
    Elvis has left the building.
    I'm back now. I was on a bike ride. Ya'll should ride a bit today too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElvisMerckx View Post
    I'm back now. I was on a bike ride. Ya'll should ride a bit today too.
    That will happen for sure. As soon as the sun comes up I'm off for a long walk to clear my head!
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    We've seen this before. President Andrew Jackson, etc. He was elected by a global economic shift away from the people who voted for him. Similar upheavals are happening in other countries. He's made a lot of promises, and he'll have to keep them. This country ain't a casino. But I think he probably knows that.

    NYC is as quiet as a Sunday funeral though. Gray day. Supposed to rain.

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    First the Brexit... now Trump. We are watching a revolution of sorts: people are saying they won't accept established wisdom, the well behaved academic truth. There is a lot of risk but things are moving and moving faster than our capacity to understand, criticize, antagonize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker View Post
    First the Brexit... now Trump. We are watching a revolution of sorts: people are saying they won't accept established wisdom, the well behaved academic truth. There is a lot of risk but things are moving and moving faster than our capacity to understand, criticize, antagonize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colker View Post
    First the Brexit... now Trump. We are watching a revolution of sorts: people are saying they won't accept established wisdom, the well behaved academic truth. There is a lot of risk but things are moving and moving faster than our capacity to understand, criticize, antagonize.
    The problem with Brexit is that not even the British government has a clear picture of it!

    And those are the moments you feel blessed as Italian: any f*cked up goverment won't last more than one year anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gattonero View Post
    The problem with Brexit is that not even the British government has a clear picture of it!

    And those are the moments you feel blessed as Italian: any f*cked up goverment won't last more than one year anyway
    Parlamentarism(?) is better than presidentialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rowdyhillrambler View Post
    Can someone please make me feel better???..........I need to feel better about this, I have an 8 year old gal that I need to calm myself down over.
    Both parties build a caricature of the opposing candidate. Absolutely creating a monster that will destroy life as we know it. Its a strategy to win elections, no reason to continue thinking that way after the election is over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daltex View Post
    Both parties build a caricature of the opposing candidate. Absolutely creating a monster that will destroy life as we know it. Its a strategy to win elections, no reason to continue thinking that way after the election is over.
    Yes but this President-elect specifically talked about how much he "loves war" and discussed "bombing the shit out of them" (granted, in a discussion of countering IS) as well as his recklessly tossing around the notion of actually using nuclear weapons. Hyperbole it most likely was, but remember Reagan's quip about "the bombing begins in 10 minutes" (I think that was it?) when he wasn't aware the microphone was keyed? That alone caused real consternation in Moscow. Trump's done a lot to create his own monster.
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