Quote Originally Posted by beeatnik View Post
J and I chatted about the article below. He may have summarized the convo in the other Covid thread.

What Really Happened With that Weird Yankees COVID Outbreak
By David Wallace-Wells

Last week, in very short order, eight members of the New York Yankees, all of whom were apparently “fully” vaccinated, tested positive for COVID-19, confusing and alarming many Americans — not to mention Yankee fans — who had assumed that vaccination would close the book on the pandemic, at least for the vaccinated. Michael Mina, however, was not confused or alarmed. A Harvard epidemiologist who has spent the pandemic advocating for the widespread use of home-pregnancy-style rapid antigen tests, Mina has become, over the past year, one of the most clear-eyed critics of the public-health establishment and the COVID messaging that has emerged from it.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...-outbreak.html

IIRC, Dr. Michael Mina argues that asymptomatic infections in the vaccinated (and unvaccinated) shouldn't be considered contagious. High cycle thresholds and all that. CDC seems to be following this logic as they no longer track non-hospitalized "breakthrough" cases. Question is how are mild (formerly) breakthrough cases different than any mild Covid-19 case, ie, if you're a non-vaccinated person infected by a vaccinated individual who shows mild symptoms (or none at all) will you have a better outcome than being infected by a non-vaccinated "healthy" individual?
I think you're misconstruing a couple things. This is a disease with a high likelihood of asymptomatic spread. That's why the initial outbreak was so widespread. People who don't show any symptoms we associate with being sick (cough, fever, etc) can be out in public shedding virus all over the place and infecting other people. So far it seems that most of the vaccinated individuals who have tested positive have enough virus in their system to test positive on a PCR test but not enough that they're shedding enough virus to infect others.

but if you're unvaccinated it probably doesn't matter who infects you.