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    Default Re: Two US Senate Run-offs in Georgia: Victory for both means a 50/50 Senate - Must W

    Quote Originally Posted by zachateseverything View Post
    if you don't want people to respond to your opinions you shouldn't share them on a public forum. it's not like I'm outside your house yelling this stuff into a bull horn.

    and I do respond to other people's posts as well.

    did someone pee in your cheerios or something?
    So you suggest I shouldn't castigate others, while you castigate me directly...

    Yes, we all have opinions here, but history shows if you swim right instead of left, the sharks are unleashed.

    Tell you what: I'll reply to all of your postings in the same manor you do to mine. Fair enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corso View Post
    So you suggest I shouldn't castigate others, while you castigate me directly...

    Yes, we all have opinions here, but history shows if you swim right instead of left, the sharks are unleashed.

    Tell you what: I'll reply to all of your postings in the same manor you do to mine. Fair enough?
    that's fine, if it means you'll stop taking everything so personally and/or building strawman arguments.

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    Default Re: Two US Senate Run-offs in Georgia: Victory for both means a 50/50 Senate - Must W

    Contribute or volunteer for the Democrats and win these two senatorial seats or say hello to an intransigent, refreshed McConnell and kiss the opportunity for progress goodbye.

    Billionaire Republicans on Wall Street have been opening their wallets to try and protect David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler’s Senate seats in January 5’s high-stakes runoff in Georgia against two Democrat challengers.

    Two super Pacs are planning to spend about $80m on ads and other efforts backing the Republicans.

    Among donors are top finance CEOs Stephen Schwarzman, of Blackstone Group, and Kenneth Griffin, of Citadel LLC, who have donated millions to the Senate Leadership Fund super Pac which is supporting Perdue, according to campaign finance records.

    Last month, Schwarzman, who briefly was the chair of Donald Trump’s strategic and policy forum, contributed $15m and Griffin donated $10m to the Pac; while earlier in the year, the Pac received $20m from Schwarzman and $25m from Griffin.

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...ck-republicans
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    Default Re: Two US Senate Run-offs in Georgia: Victory for both means a 50/50 Senate - Must W

    Quote Originally Posted by Corso View Post
    Wouldn't it be nice if "we" simply let each state's citizens vote for their representatives without outside influence?

    Wouldn't it be fantastic if one party would stop slandering the other - by blaming "them" for the problems they they themselves are guilty of?

    Having ONE PARTY that rules everything is exactly what this country ISN"T about.

    Perhaps the voters in Georgia should be left alone to make their decisions, and not be influenced by money and time spend by outsiders who could care less about those citizens, and only want to gain headcount in Washington.

    Yes, I know how this all "works" in real life, so spare the oncoming lectures.

    IMO, the founding fathers intention was to have each state represented by those who spoke for their residents, not for other's to speak for them.
    case in point:

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    Default Re: Two US Senate Run-offs in Georgia: Victory for both means a 50/50 Senate - Must W

    Eventually, maybe immediately, the Republicans will worry about deficit spending. The issue will become taxes.

    You may have seen news articles about the recent research published by LSE and King's College Professors about 50 yrs of TAX cuts in OECD economies.
    Here is a link to the LSE Summary article and to the full research report.
    https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-ne...s-for-the-rich
    http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/107919/1/Ho..._published.pdf

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    Ossof and Warnock victories in the Georgia Senatorial runoffs are imperative if there is to be any hope for progress during Biden’s administration. Republicans are burying the state in money and other resources. Democrats and progressives will coalesce as one and up their game drastically, or lose.

    Most Democratic Party efforts and resources are being expended on the large metro areas; that means we need grassroots support for informational ads and get out the vote (GOTV) activities in the rural areas; and that means we need contributions from folks all over the nation. Please contribute whatever you can to South Georgia’s Thomas County Democratic Party (TCDP). You can make donations or contact party officers to offer assistance, here: https://thomascountydemocrats.org/

    One major effort involves billboards on highway 84 which runs through a bunch of South Georgia counties and towns; the TCDP needs to pay for billboards on it, and to support other GOTV activities in that part of the state clear through the runoff date. Right now Loeffler and Perdue signs are the only signs on highway 84 and that needs to change.

    Billboards cost $275 per week. Please donate whatever you can.

    If you live in/near the area please consider volunteering your time; help is needed for door knocking, yard sign production and other activities.

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    Default Re: Two US Senate Run-offs in Georgia: Victory for both means a 50/50 Senate - Must W

    "In Fulton County, Georgia, 9,769 new voters registered to vote between Election Day on November 3, 2020 and the December 7 cutoff to vote in the U.S. Senate runoff on January 5. This is according to documents The Civics Center has obtained from Fulton County officials. According to the AJC, Fulton County also received nearly 29,000 total voter registration applications (which includes both new registrations, as well as changes of address and other updates) in the month of November. Richard Barron of the Fulton County Division of Registration and Elections reported at a public meeting on December 10 that the number of applications the county received broke prior County records for the month of November.

    Fulton County is Georgia’s most populous county. With just over 1 million residents, the county comprises close to one-tenth of the population of the state as a whole. If other counties in the state see comparable rates of new registrations, the state will have more than 90,000 new voters for the U.S. Senate runoff on January 5 than those registered for the presidential election.
    Fulton County has not yet released an age breakdown for these new registrations. As previously estimated by The Civics Center, statewide 23,000 young people will have turned 18 between the presidential election and the date of the U.S. Senate runoff. Youth and democracy groups made extensive efforts to reach new Georgia voters to get them to register so that they will have a voice in the U.S. Senate runoffs.
    Georgia voters cast 4,045,613 votes in the presidential election statewide, according to the Georgia Secretary of State.

    President-elect Biden’s margin of victory was was more than 12,000 votes statewide, suggesting that new registrations could make a decisive difference in the U.S. Senate race. As of November 1, 2020, the number of registered voters in Fulton County was 808,742. The new registrations account for a 1.2% increase to the overall number of registered voters in the county."

    https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/electio...SSwXxF8_28qvMA
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    Quote Originally Posted by jclay View Post
    Ossof and Warnock victories in the Georgia Senatorial runoffs are imperative if there is to be any hope for progress during Biden’s administration.
    There are many centrist democrats so impact will be minimal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ides1056 View Post
    "In Fulton County, Georgia, 9,769 new voters registered to vote between Election Day on November 3, 2020 and the December 7 cutoff to vote in the U.S. Senate runoff on January 5. This is according to documents The Civics Center has obtained from Fulton County officials. According to the AJC, Fulton County also received nearly 29,000 total voter registration applications (which includes both new registrations, as well as changes of address and other updates) in the month of November. Richard Barron of the Fulton County Division of Registration and Elections reported at a public meeting on December 10 that the number of applications the county received broke prior County records for the month of November.

    Fulton County is Georgia’s most populous county. With just over 1 million residents, the county comprises close to one-tenth of the population of the state as a whole. If other counties in the state see comparable rates of new registrations, the state will have more than 90,000 new voters for the U.S. Senate runoff on January 5 than those registered for the presidential election.
    Fulton County has not yet released an age breakdown for these new registrations. As previously estimated by The Civics Center, statewide 23,000 young people will have turned 18 between the presidential election and the date of the U.S. Senate runoff. Youth and democracy groups made extensive efforts to reach new Georgia voters to get them to register so that they will have a voice in the U.S. Senate runoffs.
    Georgia voters cast 4,045,613 votes in the presidential election statewide, according to the Georgia Secretary of State.

    President-elect Biden’s margin of victory was was more than 12,000 votes statewide, suggesting that new registrations could make a decisive difference in the U.S. Senate race. As of November 1, 2020, the number of registered voters in Fulton County was 808,742. The new registrations account for a 1.2% increase to the overall number of registered voters in the county."

    https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/electio...SSwXxF8_28qvMA
    I think perhaps you have linked the GA SOS's results for the 2016 presidential election. The votes cast in the 2020 presidential elections were right at 5 million.

    https://sos.ga.gov/admin/uploads/11....ort_Memo_1.pdf

    The extrapolation of the Fulton County registrations to the state as a whole is wild-assed assumption, methinks. Rural counties are not comparable to urban and suburban ones. What reason is there to believe that other counties would see the same rates of new registrations?

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    I stand corrected. Just thought to copy and paste this to add to the mix. Lazy of me.

    We will see what happens, to be sure.
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    The nearly impossible task of draining the swamp was never going to happen under Trump but Loeffler and Perdue should be poster children representing the swamp. How any member the aggrieved class of white Georgians can think that either is remotely interested in their well being is astonishing.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...d-perdue-swamp

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    done that
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    Quote Originally Posted by jclay View Post
    The nearly impossible task of draining the swamp was never going to happen under Trump but Loeffler and Perdue should be poster children representing the swamp. How any member the aggrieved class of white Georgians can think that either is remotely interested in their well being is astonishing.
    Leoffler and Perdue represent the problems of how democracy and capitalism works in the US. These 2 filthy rich candidates are making the poor or at least not-rich people think they are on their side. No they aren't. They will use their power in office to decrease government aid to those that need it while insuring their ill gained wealth will be taxed less. When David Perdue left Dollar General (where the poorest shop because they can't afford Walmart) as its CEO for only a little while, he took with him something like 42 million $. That discrepancy between his compensation and what the workers are making is a crime. Or should be. If there is that much profit available it would be much better to redistribute it to increase worker wages while reducing the big bosses pay. That won't happen with those 2 keeping Republicans with Mitch McConnell running things in Washington.

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    As a resident of GA I can't wait for this to be over. The ads, the mail, ugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgaddis View Post
    As a resident of GA I can't wait for this to be over. The ads, the mail, ugh.
    I can imagine!
    I get about 10 texts a week. They seem to think I'm a Georgia Republican named Robert. Who may not have voted in the general election.
    This, despite the fact that I've had this Boston area-code phone for well over a decade.
    GO!

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    I was in Jacksonville, FL this past weekend and unfortunately was exposed.....


    ..... (no not exposed to that, I hope) to some ads from the race. About every 3rd word is "socialism". My sister-in-law grew up in what we then called "East Germany". I think she knows what socialism is. These idiot ad people have no clue.

    Last edited by Saab2000; 12-23-2020 at 04:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    I was in Jacksonville, FL this past weekend and unfortunately was exposed.....


    ..... (no not exposed to that, I hope) to some ads from the race. About every 3rd word is "socialism". My sister-in-law grew up in what we then called "East Germany". I think she knows what socialism is. These idiot ad people have no clue.

    This guy nails it (mostly). Language warning! https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...ecause_theyre/
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    I just drove from Florida to TN, the entirety of Ga...yuck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    About every 3rd word is "socialism". My sister-in-law grew up in what we then called "East Germany". I think she knows what socialism is. These idiot ad people have no clue.
    I spent a lot of time behind the iron curtain. Family had property stolen because some communist ass' determined that they were filthy rich, business transferred to a party pet....families separated.

    To keep this short, Socialism covers a broad spectrum from the whiter shade of grey to the deep black of communism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sine View Post
    I spent a lot of time behind the iron curtain. Family had property stolen because some communist ass' determined that they were filthy rich, business transferred to a party pet....families separated.

    To keep this short, Socialism covers a broad spectrum from the whiter shade of grey to the deep black of communism.
    I get it. But what is being called socialism in the context of American politics are things like properly funding schools, some basic health care, properly funding infrastructure and environmental institutions that are good for all, like ensuring clean air and water. Nobody is seriously talking about eastern bloc style communism, which everyone will admit was a disaster, and far from the ideals of Marx.

    One member here once mentioned that he didn’t want gulags. Nor does anyone else, though we have something not so far away in the form of private prisons.

    Socialism is indeed a broad word and its use in the context of American politics is absurd.
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