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    -- our B52 strike force is about to be called up to 24 hr alert.., first time since 1991 ending cold war..
    also redeployment of some of the wings now that we have multi nuclear players.., not just russia..
    also, possibility of draft/recall of 1k+ tour/duty up pilots to fill war craft needs..

    -- fu-ck.., i thought my watch would pass with no more war..

    pray for peace my brothers.., no winners or losers next dice roll.., just what/who is left..

    ronnie from within

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    You can feel the pressure everywhere.
    slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron l edmiston View Post

    pray for peace my brothers.., no winners or losers next dice roll.., just what/who is left..

    ronnie from within
    I'm with you. It's getting increasingly ugly. There are no winners.

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    and it's incredibly disturbing to know decisions/actions are based on ego, ignorance, pride and empathy.
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    **without empathy. my bad.
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    USAF says no to Dr. Strangelove, according to Janes.*

    US Air Force denies it is returning bombers to nuclear alert status | Jane's 36

    *Janes is "The Economist" for the Zoom & Boom set.

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    As long as the media keeps pushing it’s NEGATIVE TRUMP AT ALL COST ALL THE TIME EVEN IF THE FACTS DON”T FIT news, this is what we’ll be getting for the remainder of his term.

    The “resistance” isn’t serving our country very well. Neither do Trumps Tweets...

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    It does seem like a lot of negativity toward Trump. Perhaps it's because it's difficult to find the positives. I'm still searching. Desperately.

    This low-brow, she said, he said is what we'll get for the remainder of his term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ras72 View Post
    It does seem like a lot of negativity toward Trump. Perhaps it's because it's difficult to find the positives. I'm still searching. Desperately.
    ^^^This. Saw a report today claiming that the media's coverage of Trump is more negative than that of any previous president. Gee, what a surprise! Perhaps if he would stop doing such negative things, the press would report fewer negative things. Give them something to go on at least...

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    Don’t panic and halt riding our beloved bicycles, VSalon friends.
    If a handful of nukes detonate over our houses, it’ll only hurt for an instant.

    “...Hey, what was that *really* bright flash of white light above us?...” ;-)

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    Did the art and culture of Diplomacy leave the room? What happened to long drawn out endless talks? That works.

    I realize this subject is not easy to broach without naming names. Would it be possible to do that using civilty, a most cherished human ability lacking today?
    Thank you

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    On the technical side, the US doesn't deploy tactical nuclear weapons anymore. During the Cold War, we had all kinds of tactical nukes deployed on carriers, battlefield stuff, submarine launched cruise missiles, etc. Then we put it all away and went all deterrent all the time. The media and even the POTUS talk about the US having nuclear subs in theater for NK. The US always has a strategic deterrent sub or two in the Pacific, strategic deterrent is for shooting back with no regard to limited strikes, it's all out end of the world stuff. The missiles have multiple nuclear warheads, they're all going somewhere. The other subs in the western pacific are fast attacks and maybe an SSGN which carries a metric shit-tonne of tomahawks and maybe a SEAL team. The tomahawks aren't nuclear. B-52's deployed with nuke cruise missiles would be the retaliatory or first strike when you're not trying to end the human race.

    But it's all bullshit, the pilots aren't being recalled and the planes are staying in their current status. If not, see above.
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    The order to go on alert has not been given. Preparations for quickly responding to such an order are being made. WaPo: The Air Force hasn’t used nuclear ‘alert pads’ since the Cold War. Now they’re being upgraded.

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    Stalin's axiom

    A Lie is more effective than the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Jays View Post
    Don’t panic and halt riding our beloved bicycles, VSalon friends.
    If a handful of nukes detonate over our houses, it’ll only hurt for an instant.

    “...Hey, what was that *really* bright flash of white light above us?...” ;-)
    Another reason not to buy Di2, not emp proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corso View Post
    As long as the media keeps pushing it’s NEGATIVE TRUMP AT ALL COST ALL THE TIME EVEN IF THE FACTS DON”T FIT news, this is what we’ll be getting for the remainder of his term.

    The “resistance” isn’t serving our country very well. Neither do Trumps Tweets...
    What is "The Media"? The president's biggest apologists and supporters are Rupert Murdoch's Fox "News" channel talking faces. They keep telling us that they're America's number one news network, America's favorite news network, etc. They can't broadcast a critical word so I don't know who this "media" is that Trump's supporters keep whining about. The biggest news channel in the US is basically his propaganda channel.

    The president would like nothing more than to wipe out the First Amendment. He's basically said as much. As long as the coverage is critical it's somehow bad? That's not how it works in a democratic republic with free speech as a cornerstone of the constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    What is "The Media"? The president's biggest apologists and supporters are Rupert Murdoch's Fox "News" channel talking faces. They keep telling us that they're America's number one news network, America's favorite news network, etc. They can't broadcast a critical word so I don't know who this "media" is that Trump's supporters keep whining about. The biggest news channel in the US is basically his propaganda channel.

    The president would like nothing more than to wipe out the First Amendment. He's basically said as much. As long as the coverage is critical it's somehow bad? That's not how it works in a democratic republic with free speech as a cornerstone of the constitution.
    Noted that Twitter, Facebook, et al are also "the media" at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    What is "The Media"? The president's biggest apologists and supporters are Rupert Murdoch's Fox "News" channel talking faces. They keep telling us that they're America's number one news network, America's favorite news network, etc. They can't broadcast a critical word so I don't know who this "media" is that Trump's supporters keep whining about. The biggest news channel in the US is basically his propaganda channel.

    The president would like nothing more than to wipe out the First Amendment. He's basically said as much. As long as the coverage is critical it's somehow bad? That's not how it works in a democratic republic with free speech as a cornerstone of the constitution.
    Yes. The media is not a monolithic power made of singular ideas dictated by a secret cabal. Whenever someone calls "the media" i ask "Which media outlet"?
    Social paranoia is a usefull tool so spreading the notion of a "negative media" is mostly part of a strategy.
    The role of newspapers is to be an independent voice of criticsm. Deal w/it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    What is "The Media"? The president's biggest apologists and supporters are Rupert Murdoch's Fox "News" channel talking faces. They keep telling us that they're America's number one news network, America's favorite news network, etc. They can't broadcast a critical word so I don't know who this "media" is that Trump's supporters keep whining about. The biggest news channel in the US is basically his propaganda channel.

    The president would like nothing more than to wipe out the First Amendment. He's basically said as much. As long as the coverage is critical it's somehow bad? That's not how it works in a democratic republic with free speech as a cornerstone of the constitution.
    Saab, I question the same thing.
    I keep hearing 'the mainstream media is fake news' yet 'non-mainstream media (whatever that means) has the facts'.
    Mainstream is defined by the ideas, attitudes, or activities that are regarded as normal or conventional; the dominant trend in opinion, fashion, or the arts.
    If one channel is proclaiming the 'most watched'; wouldn't it be mainstream?

    I feel this confusion is the preferred MO of the current president and supporters to keep us all guessing because they don't have a clear direction. It's like checking wind direction in a tornado.
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