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[UnfilteredDregs]

We got a thread for this yet?

[David Tollefson]

Vader is Luke's FATHER!

[Mabouya]

Vader is Luke's FATHER!

It's been right there for all to see: Vader = Vater

[David Tollefson]

Seriously, though, while I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, and thought it was a well-done piece to transition into the post Ep-VI world, I wasn't really surprised by anything. I'd read enough of the "official" follow-on fiction, and they stayed basically true to it. They've opened the possibilities for many more films in the SW saga.

[UnfilteredDregs]

What I don't like is the recycled plot vehicles. Secret intel being hunted down, damsel sorta in distress, wise mentor's death, fuckin' battlestation that needs to be destroyed, yada, yada, yada...

But...Patricide?

[David Tollefson]

Kylo Ren was very much struggling with his identity. It took that to solidify his path. If you've read the post-Ep-VI fiction, you see the back story on that.

[UnfilteredDregs]

Eh...the more I think about it, it is a lazy and shitty movie.

Complete rehash of "A New Hope," they killed Han poorly, not even reuniting with Skywalker. Bullshit.

Kinda like a greatest hits album by your favorite band, but all the songs are covered by artists you hate.

[Mark Walberg]

I'm surprised that they missed a good opportunity to bring Yoda back.
Ren, starting to feel the Force, running through the woods, meets Yoda and gets needed insight into the Force.
Would have been a good ploy for increasing attendance and for selling all sorts of Yoda toys.

[Britishbane]

I'm surprised that they missed a good opportunity to bring Yoda back.
Ren, starting to feel the Force, running through the woods, meets Yoda and gets needed insight into the Force.
Would have been a good ploy for increasing attendance and for selling all sorts of Yoda toys.

Didn't Yoda die in the original trilogy?

[Mark Walberg]

Didn't Yoda die in the original trilogy?

Maybe, but there are work arounds.
Everyone loves Yoda.

[Matthew Strongin]

Didn't Yoda die in the original trilogy?

Spolier!!!

[David Tollefson]

Yoda only appears to other Jedi. For all of Rey's force ability, she's not a Jedi.

[Mark Walberg]

Yoda only appears to other Jedi. For all of Rey's force ability, she's not a Jedi.

Later episode then.