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    Glad everyone is okay. What part of Dallas is Daltex in? Did Dallas get the same sort of flooding? Sounds like it might have been far enough away.

    I am surprised to see people on some of the bridges. Usually floods like these run the risk of undermining support piers. One second you are photographing the river, the next you are surfing on a concrete barge.

    Water this volume would tear any building to pieces, but in an area where the building codes probably don't anticipate snow loads or hard freezes, it probably happens all the more readily.
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    It is still hard to wrap my head around what happened in Wimberley. I am not really a praying kind of person, but it is about all you can do for them. Pray that they had some peace at the end.
    Frantic phone call as family, friends swept away by violent Texas floodwaters - The Washington Post

    We stayed dry here (Austin) for the most part. Lots of trees down and power out. Lots of downtown streets underwater, but that all drained pretty quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexis View Post
    It is still hard to wrap my head around what happened in Wimberley. I am not really a praying kind of person, but it is about all you can do for them. Pray that they had some peace at the end.
    Frantic phone call as family, friends swept away by violent Texas floodwaters - The Washington Post

    We stayed dry here (Austin) for the most part. Lots of trees down and power out. Lots of downtown streets underwater, but that all drained pretty quick.
    The Laura McComb story is heart breaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbill View Post
    Got two inches of rain yesterday, seven inches for the week, twelve for the month. Lake Texoma is over the spillway which means the Red River is actually a river and likely to close the main road heading north from Paris, TX just anytime. It's been epic here but nothing like what's going on in the Hill Country or West of here. There's no end in sight for now. My trip to Wisconsin gave me way more opportunities to ride than being here.
    Stay safe, Bill! Things seem to be epic, then they're epic-er. Lot of thoughts and prayers going to all affected.

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    This is devastating.

    Coincidentally, as I was driving through upstate NY on Friday I was thinking about the flooding I saw there during the summer of 2013 - water levels on the Mohawk River up near the level of the Thruway... Friday the water was, of course, where it normally flows, 10-15' below. I remember how freaky it was to be driving through a week after the worst of it.

    This weekend's floods sound much worse, much more powerful and violent. Thoughts and prayers (for what they're worth) to all of you affected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    Glad everyone is okay. What part of Dallas is Daltex in?
    I believe Daltex is safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    Glad everyone is okay. What part of Dallas is Daltex in? Did Dallas get the same sort of flooding? .
    Sorry, just saw this. Thanks for your concern. We are in Dallas and many roads and low laying places got (and still are) flooded out. My shop is in downtown & it's fine. Some outlying areas got hit harder and require evacuations, but not us.

    Most of the problems I've seen are folks trying to cross running water in their cars. Sometimes the water is hiding the fact the the road beneath has washed away, which basically leaves the driver trying to cross a stream in a ford escort. Never a good idea.

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    Georgetown lakes and streams have been reacting kind of oddly, in my opinion. This stream hasn't gone down, didn't come up as much, either. But it is over the cement bridge. Meanwhile, a couple miles downstream, it's still incredibly high. Wife and I went to the lake yesterday and the water was at it's highest point...which is 20' higher than it was prior to the rain. The water levels in flooded areas of Dallas that I saw on Saturday were down 4' or so even after the morning rain.

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    Parents were in midland fit a for a highschool graduation. They said they never seen it more green. I have never seen midland green before

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    I believe the scientists who study these things have told us that the future will have more extreme droughts and more extreme rainfall and storms.

    It might take another 20 years or so to get loads more data to compare to the historical record, but what we've seen so far certainly seems to match that prediction.

    We can all check back with this thread in two decades to see how things are going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mabouya View Post
    I believe the scientists who study these things have told us that the future will have more extreme droughts and more extreme rainfall and storms.

    It might take another 20 years or so to get loads more data to compare to the historical record, but what we've seen so far certainly seems to match that prediction.

    We can all check back with this thread in two decades to see how things are going.

    And much better infographics....

    please don't read into this as I am anit-global warming. Im just pointing out the power of bundling information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mabouya View Post
    I believe the scientists who study these things have told us that the future will have more extreme droughts and more extreme rainfall and storms.

    It might take another 20 years or so to get loads more data to compare to the historical record, but what we've seen so far certainly seems to match that prediction.

    We can all check back with this thread in two decades to see how things are going.
    time will tell, this last month here seems to indicate that might be possible (especially considering we've been in the worst drought in history for the last 7-10 years or so...)

    May’s wet weather in Austin is one for the history books | www.statesman.com

    "To the surprise of very few, last month set new rainfall records for both the Austin area and Texas.

    According to the National Weather Service, Camp Mabry received 17.59 inches of rain in May, shattering the previous May record of 14.10 inches set in 1895. Austin-Bergstrom International Airport had its second wettest May in history, with 13.44 inches in the past month.

    This year’s Camp Mabry total dwarfs last year’s May total of 7.89 inches, which was still more than the typical May average of 4.37 inches.

    Texas as a whole had the wettest month in its history. The state averaged 7.54 inches of rain in May — nearly an inch more than the previous high of 6.66 inches in June 2004, according to the Office of the State Climatologist at Texas A&M.

    The National Weather Service says more than 40 locations in Texas are still experiencing some type of flooding, with 12 gauges in the state reporting major flooding.

    “It has been one continuous storm after another for the past week to 10 days in several regions of the state,” said John Nielsen-Gammon, Texas state climatologist in a press release Wednesday.

    “Spring is usually wet, but not this wet.”"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mabouya View Post
    I believe the scientists who study these things have told us that the future will have more extreme droughts and more extreme rainfall and storms.

    It might take another 20 years or so to get loads more data to compare to the historical record, but what we've seen so far certainly seems to match that prediction.

    We can all check back with this thread in two decades to see how things are going.
    Things tend to even themselves out. just not as quickly as we like. a 9 year drought in texas is now offset by a year of torrential rain. look at it over a 10 year average and it looks normal.

    we've had equally bad or worse flooding in 1913 and in 1869. in my humble opinion its tough to extrapolate a trend in anytyhing less than a 100 years for something as large and as old as a planet.

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    The big difference with a lot of these storms is that everything they destroy is worth a significantly larger amount of money so the costs are way higher at a time when most municipalities and counties can't even make their everyday budgets. I know that in Virginia (where I grew up) there was a series of pretty tremendous hurricanes in the 60's that changed the way people built on the beaches. Now there have been almost 50 years since those storms and the beaches are all built up right to the surf line almost and all sorts of money is invested in a beach barrier ecosystem that is supposed to wash away, sift and move with the storms. And I'd guess that a lot of cities are built like NYC, where the probability charts suggest that risk percentage forecasts have a longer horizon than most political movements, so everyone has been calculating that their 5-10 years in power is in the other part of the statistical 100 years and gone about funding the city by permitting building that will fill the coffers with property taxes. Add to that the perception that science has triumphed for the most part over the weather, and these storms gain magnitude due to a lack of preparedness, bad building practices, high property values, and the amount of time that has passed since a storm of similar magnitude last occurred. All this to say that in a way it doesn't matter if global warming is happening or not - if you build your house on a 100 year flood plain and the 100 year flood comes along, you better have put pontoons and a rudder on your house. Or you know, build it somewhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    ...and these storms gain magnitude due to a lack of preparedness, bad building practices, high property values, and the amount of time that has passed since a storm of similar magnitude last occurred. All this to say that in a way it doesn't matter if global warming is happening or not - if you build your house on a 100 year flood plain and the 100 year flood comes along, you better have put pontoons and a rudder on your house. Or you know, build it somewhere else.
    Great post!

    I can't remember the author, but my master's advisor always said it - "Hazards are natural, disasters are man-made"

    BTW, the 100 year floodplain - it's really the 1% annual chance floodplain. A bit of a misnomer. Over the course of a 30 mortgage, you've got a 26% chance of being hit by a "100-year flood".

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    Family heading down today from Tennessee. Going to San Antonio to see my nephew graduate from bootcamp. Not knowing anything about Texas geography, was that are flooded.? Anything to warn them about.? My 7 year old gal is going with them, and I am hesitant/anxious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by defspace View Post
    BTW, the 100 year floodplain - it's really the 1% annual chance floodplain. A bit of a misnomer. Over the course of a 30 mortgage, you've got a 26% chance of being hit by a "100-year flood".
    my mom was wiped out on a 1000 year flood plain. Of course, they don't necessarily take into consideration the fact that someone built a mall just uphill from your house. However, her house was on dead flat ground next to a small river, so it seems that the 1000 year prediction was somewhat off. The fact that the flood waters reached something like 13 feet was unlikely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daltex View Post
    Things tend to even themselves out. just not as quickly as we like. a 9 year drought in texas is now offset by a year of torrential rain. look at it over a 10 year average and it looks normal.

    we've had equally bad or worse flooding in 1913 and in 1869. in my humble opinion its tough to extrapolate a trend in anytyhing less than a 100 years for something as large and as old as a planet.
    that sorta works...until you think about things like crops not growing in torrential rains/floods, or extreme drought...
    seems we are quickly heading in the direction of less sustainability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rowdyhillrambler View Post
    Family heading down today from Tennessee. Going to San Antonio to see my nephew graduate from bootcamp. Not knowing anything about Texas geography, was that are flooded.? Anything to warn them about.? My 7 year old gal is going with them, and I am hesitant/anxious.
    Nothing to be concerned about. Riverwalk might be up still, but other than that...nada.
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