lets set the terminology straight

[dgaddis]

Shimano called them "rear fork ends" in their dealer parts catalogue, and I could find no argument, particularly when "track drop outs" describes a part wherein the wheel does not drop out when unfastened from the frame. Whose nomenclature is really the foolish one?
Maybe front fork is often overly specific, but perhaps not strictly redundant.

They're track ends

[Craddock]

in some forms of engineering trailing zeroes are also defined for upper and lower limit class

Yep, trailing zeros show the number hasn't been rounded up or down. Useful for expressing greater accuracy especially where fit and tolerance of mating parts are concerned such as +0.05/-0.00. This is also significant since there are a lot of roundings going on in the bike industry when converting historic inch dimensions into metric.
The inch was changed so that there would be a convenient metric conversion value for 1 inch = 25.40mm.

[Craddock]

those aren't forks, they are frame components. unbolt the top and it's just pieces parts of a frame. a fork has a crown and a rotational axis.

If one is going to call seat stay assemblies "forks", then why not call chain stay assemblies "forks"?

I agree with you. I've just heard people talk about those old stays that way.

[Jake Rosenfeld]

and it's a "cope" not a "miter"

"queue" not "cue"

Nooo...., cope is to form or shape one member to fit the profile of an abutting member........Oh wait.... :-)

how the heck did 'miter' become the widely used term?

[MacLaughlin]

...how the heck did 'miter' become the widely used term?

Cope - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mitre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(duh?)

[Mark Kelly]

Useful for expressing greater precision especially where fit and tolerance of mating parts are concerned such as +0.05/-0.00.

Since we are setting terminology straight.

[ergott]

Significant figures - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[e-RICHIE]

Significant figures - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's the atmopedia version atmo -

Significant figures - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[shiggy]

23C tires? WTF is C? It's 23mm by 700C despite what the tire company's mold on their tires.

"C" = clincher when used after the width

[Dallas Tex]

Nooo...., cope is to form or shape one member to fit the profile of an abutting member........Oh wait.... :-)

how the heck did 'miter' become the widely used term?

Where does that leave 'fishmouth' ??

[dcPete]

"C" = clincher when used after the width

This would make too much sense!
Since we are proposing new conventions; how about C-F for folding clincher or C-R for rigid?

[Curt Goodrich]

"C" = clincher when used after the width

No. Check out some tubular labels.

[kpomtb]

Where does that leave 'fishmouth' ??

Most fishmouths end up hooked to the end of Garro's line.

[Jake Rosenfeld]

Where does that leave 'fishmouth' ??

Only place I ever heard that was the shipyards.
Seems like the chassis/cage builders use that too.
But yeah, lots of terms. I've heard 'notching' used as well

[Amaro Bikes]

In Spain maybe, in Mexico it´s 0.5mm

In Spain nothing really matters, it's all good, anyway, half a milimiter is too small to measure it, most of my bike measures are done by "fingers" :o

[Amaro Bikes]

Let's cut to the chase - what is a framebuilder? Is it someone who can build, or does build, a
frame? Or does one become a framebuilder after reaching a number or experience level atmo?

I would go for answer b)

Same way as you're not a bike mechanic by fixing a bike.

By the way... not all customers are customers (oh boy, that's a public suicide? :o )

And a fitter... what the hell is that?

Also, oversize is no longer oversize, there're so many oversizing sizes that the "over" differencial is lost in translation

But over all, without any doubts, there's the word, the measure, the iconic concept, the mother of all truths...

Light is not longer light! (weightwise)

[dgaddis]

In Spain nothing really matters, it's all good, anyway, half a milimiter is too small to measure it, most of my bike measures are done by "fingers" :o

Measure with a micrometer, mark it with chalk, cut with an axe.

[steve garro]

Most fishmouths end up hooked to the end of Garro's line.

:)
- Garro.

[shiggy]

This would make too much sense!
Since we are proposing new conventions; how about C-F for folding clincher or C-R for rigid?

It is not new, it comes from the ISO documents.

[shiggy]

No. Check out some tubular labels.

If so, they are misusing it.