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    okay - time to wash the laughing gear and go horizontal.
    here's one from today that i saw in my Flickr recent activity.
    warning - large file atmo...



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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    okay - time to wash the laughing gear and go horizontal.
    here's one from today that i saw in my Flickr recent activity.
    warning - large file atmo...


    Now that's a nice pic. I dig the war face.
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    a waynej visit to the shtetl atmo -


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    Tell Matt that thing only draws attention to his schnoz.
    GO!

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    here's a letter from almost twenty years ago.
    i was quite thrilled to receive it atmo.

    the english is a bit skewed, but mister campagnolo is referring to this advert i placed in the
    VeloNews 20th anniversary issue. while i had been using print media since 1976, this was the
    first time ever i used an adjective, a superlative, or similar marketing tactic.





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    "two legumes of the same pod .."

    ronnie

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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    a waynej visit to the shtetl atmo -

    Richard, thanks for allowing me to spend time with you, TLD, buddy and the team. It was great to see the "inner workings" of team RS. A perfect blend of serious, casual and fun - just the way it ought to be.

    Just for the record ... I was wearing three long-sleeve jersys in that photo (no NFL shoulderpads involved). It was 33 degrees when I left home for the 2 hour bike ride to Prov ! I was still thawing out in the deligthful sunshine when this photo was snapped.

    My bike is the red and white one.

    That box 'o Twizzlers was a big hit. Next time, get the bulk-packed ones ... my fingers were sore from opening all those wrappers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    here is the timeline as i recall it -
    sonny braun - 4 miles away
    tanguy cycles - 120 miles away
    john anderson - 2 miles away
    ron manizza - 40 miles away
    cyclart - 3000 miles away
    the cyclesmiths - 3000 miles away
    joe bell - 3000 miles away

    that's 6 hosers in the first 8 years.
    jb and i linked in 1985 and he has been my only painter since.
    there is not a better painter alive.
    one of the perils of being at the top of the food chain is that everyone wants you.
    his being in demand affects all of us who helped set the table for this.
    but he has a family and 2 kids, and i want him to make as much cabbage as possible.
    if he makes me wait, so what - no one is walking because their frame is late or still in prep.
    ps no, he hardly had a commercial business when were first aligned. and NO, i never gave
    a thought to painting at all atmo.
    Richard,

    My memory is poor, but I thought I had one of your bikes in the 80's that was painted by Brian Bayliss.

    Here's a question ... spawned after discussing TLD's many talents with her this weekend:
    Has TLD influenced any of the artistic aspects of your frames?

    Thanks for all you've done and do for the cycling and framebuilding communities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WayneJ View Post
    Richard,

    My memory is poor, but I thought I had one of your bikes in the 80's that was painted by Brian Bayliss.

    Here's a question ... spawned after discussing TLD's many talents with her this weekend:
    Has TLD influenced any of the artistic aspects of your frames?

    Thanks for all you've done and do for the cycling and framebuilding communities.
    bayliss was one of the guys at the cyclesmiths and iirc it was name owned by ted kirkbride.
    jim allen and baylis were the two painters atmo.
    TLD has influenced my life, so it's fair to say yes to your question.
    i used to be much more obsessive and detail oriented.
    in the years since we have been a couple, i am much more detached and more likely to worry less about every little nuance.
    hey i just used the word more three times in two sentences.
    we've been a couple since about 1993 and my points of view as a framebuilder are inseparable from my role as a husband to TLD atmo.
    and ps since i smoked my own self out, three others have sent over texts for me to paste in.
    the Smoked Out board will live on after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WayneJ View Post
    Richard,

    My memory is poor, but I thought I had one of your bikes in the 80's that was painted by Brian Bayliss.

    Here's a question ... spawned after discussing TLD's many talents with her this weekend:
    Has TLD influenced any of the artistic aspects of your frames?

    Thanks for all you've done and do for the cycling and framebuilding communities.
    i actually think brian painted sachs frames well in to the late aughts for special clients that just wouldn't be satisfied by the perfection of a joe bell job. my frame for instance has the the distinct marks of a ladder 3/4 of the way up the seat tube suggesting that it was painted by a man small of stature.

    not for sure though.

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    "and never look up to see what anyone else is doing"

    That resonates with me-

    You seem to have a pretty strict sense of what you want to build- do you ever feel the need (and pursue it) to build something out of your customer offered bikes? Outside of rolling refinements and updates, that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Estlund View Post
    "and never look up to see what anyone else is doing"

    That resonates with me-

    You seem to have a pretty strict sense of what you want to build- do you ever feel the need (and pursue it) to build something out of your customer offered bikes? Outside of rolling refinements and updates, that is.
    i think you mean do i want/need/think about building something other than what i make for sale?
    if the interpretation is correct, the answer is no atmo.
    it might make it clear(er) to add that i am not an engineer type, or an artiste, or someone who wants to get people out of cars and on bicycles.
    i don't think about changing the world, or the industry, or trying to get folks to look at me (iow my bicycles) by adding a new flourish or geegaw
    that might appeal to their eye. despite all these years passing, i am still a person who accidentally and serendipitously entered all of this through
    a side door. the plain fact is that bicycles are not even something i love or obsess about, and don't recall ever feeling differently. i like the life i
    have lived and the places these turns in the road have taken me. but my real tie to making bicycles is that i am a racer who makes them rather
    than a framebuilder who races. i've never felt otherwise. i don't read the bicycle periodicals, don't get the road tests or the tech jargon most
    cats are fixated upon, and have never tried to up the ante by taking X and making it X plus whatever would make it lighter, stronger, or more
    palatable. but don't get me wrong - i have worked hard, very hard, at taking what i do at the bench and trying to understand what makes it tick.
    no one out there is more confounded by the assembly process than i am atmo. NO ONE. i am 100 percent confident that my intuition and racing
    background have set a good table for me to make bicycles that fit and work well. but at the end of the day, they still have to be fabricated. and
    that process is never the same twice. there are many folks out there that see the steel pipes and the red frames and the lack of any other cast
    that supports my corporate culture (except for all my team clothes and atmo winter hats - buy, buy, buy - oops, sorry for the digression...) and
    think i make the same thing over and over yada yada blah blah blah. only robots or a shift of workers at intergalactic bicycle transportation needs,
    inc of middle new york state can make the same thing over and over...

    what was the question?

    all i can add to this is that, despite the college gig getting sidetracked and the job at the ski rack being taken before i even boarded a greyhound
    bus with a one way ticket to vermont, and even factoring in that my trip to london was, in part, to get back at those creeps for saying i wasn't good
    enough for their stupid bicycle mechanics job - despite all of this, bicycle framebuilding been betty, betty good to me atmo.


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    That is pretty much it- I was wondering if you ever have an itch do try something out that, while it may up on your for-sale rigs, isn't motivated by that. And yup, every one is a unique product/ moment/ shot to get it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Estlund View Post
    That is pretty much it- I was wondering if you ever have an itch do try something out that, while it may up on your for-sale rigs, isn't motivated by that. And yup, every one is a unique product/ moment/ shot to get it done.
    thanks, eric. there is nothing i would change on my bicycle frame's visuals. i think they are without flaw. every point,
    edge, ink color, radius, color, and shape is exactly what i want and have worked towards, and making them look that
    way gets easier with each passing season. that no two are alike design wise makes it such that each frame is being
    built for the first time ever. any one who has ever made a cut in metal, used a heat source to join it, or has had to
    coordinate so many intersections as are part of the task of making a frame - any one who has undertaken any of
    these operations would have to feel similarly atmo. framebuilding is simultaneously mechanical and organic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    [ I can’t see that I am equipped for anything except the very life I fell into by accident.
    [/I]
    thanks for typing this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    thanks for typing this.
    so very true my friend jon ... sounds so familiar ----

    some quotes for thought from ole "strangers in the night---"

    "cock yo hat -- angles are attitudes"
    "i'm gona live till i die"
    "ya gota love livin' baby 'cause dyin' is a pain in the ass"
    "people often remark that i am lucky. luck is only important so far as a chance to sell yourself at the right moment. after that you've got to have talent and know how to use it"

    my favorate --- "the best revenge is success"

    ronnie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    thanks for typing this.
    you are welcome, jonathan atmo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    i am a racer who makes them rather
    than a framebuilder who races. i've never felt otherwise.
    Worth repeating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    my real tie to making bicycles is that i am a racer who makes them rather
    than a framebuilder who races. i've never felt otherwise.
    Richard,
    You know, for as long as I have been around bikes, you are the one builder that I have always associated with racing. I have always had this impression of you. Do you feel that if the drive to race and compete leaves you, the drive to build will follow?
    Andrew

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew View Post
    Richard,
    You know, for as long as I have been around bikes, you are the one builder that I have always associated with racing. I have always had this impression of you. Do you feel that if the drive to race and compete leaves you, the drive to build will follow?
    Andrew
    hi andrew, and thanks atmo.
    that's not a black and white issue for me.
    i stopped racing road regularly about 3 years ago after having done full seasons going back to the 70s.
    how many times can one do a fitchburg or a concord (nh) crit or a superweek or the natz before it's the same corner on the same street in the same town, blah blah blah.
    the 'cross season, while a bit shorter on the calendar has almost as many events, and the scene suits me.
    there are moments when my head isn't in the race, and my results can't hide them.
    but rarely do i get on a bicycle for a ride without the goal of "next week's event" being on my mind.
    and even when my personal connection is frayed, i still have a team that has been part of my weekends and business since 1982.
    i'd say all of it is inseparable.
    if you read any of the other posts or articles (and interviews) on my site, it's clear that bicycles, in and of themselves, don't drive me.
    were it not for racing (as well as a few unplanned forks in the road) way back when, i never would have cared to get a second 10 speed bicycle.
    but all of these issues intersect when, as a 57 year old, i wonder how much longer i will want to beat up on others every weekend.
    the fields are huge and the competition is deep, and i am not winning every sunday, but the carrot is still there.
    and then there is the queue.
    perhaps when all of these what-ifs meet at the crossroad, i'll have finished the orders and would also end the race thing.
    at that point, who knows - maybe i'd build frames without a concern for my income and could ride just for fun atmo.
    now there's a thought: a life without a bottom line or a finish line.

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