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    Default 2-piece seatstays?

    Greetings fellas,

    Got a seatstay issue to ask about. I've got one of those seat lugs with the 14mm seatstay ports (kinda like the ones Zank likes to use) but I want to use a larger diameter seatstay like a 16mm. I thought about cutting shorter sections off the 14mm stays to fit into the ports and then sliding 16mm stays over those and brazing them in place, essentially making them 2-piece seatstays with the joint maybe 20-30mm away from the ports. So I'm wondering:

    1) How much of an overlap between the two sections would be advisable?
    2) Braze the two pieces together first and then the dropout+port ends or ends first and then the sleeve part?
    3) If the fit is a little loose, is using 45 silver or Fillet Pro ok?

    Thanks,
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    Default Re: 2-piece seatstays?

    Could you cut the sockets off and fillet the stays to the lug?

    dave
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    Default Re: 2-piece seatstays?

    Interesting... well, I guess I could! Any specifics or a visual? I'm imagining it looking kinda butchered... oh, the seat lug is already brazed in btw.

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    Default Re: 2-piece seatstays?

    Quote Originally Posted by suhacycles View Post
    Interesting... well, I guess I could! Any specifics or a visual? I'm imagining it looking kinda butchered... oh, the seat lug is already brazed in btw.
    I don't know what lug you are using so I can't tell you what it would look like. I've used seat lugs with stay sockets and I always lop the bastards off and fillet them. Cleaner and no worries about fit or angle.

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    Default Re: 2-piece seatstays?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Kirk View Post
    I don't know what lug you are using so I can't tell you what it would look like. I've used seat lugs with stay sockets and I always lop the bastards off and fillet them. Cleaner and no worries about fit or angle.

    Dave
    Dave - I see what you mean. I know the ones you're referring to. The one I have is the 'P23' listed under the 'Other Oversize Cast Seat Lugs' section:

    http://www.ceeway.com/NEWPARTSPAGES/lugs.htm

    Those sockets don't look that easy to lop off...

    -Hansen

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    Doc?
    That is possible and everything, hope it works out and you don't mind the extra wotk.
    Now if it was me I would figure out how to flush it (French) it so it all looks smooth.
    Filler if you just put a short overlap 12-13 mm is more than enough if you are going to hide it and french it in to look like one piece.
    If it is a bit loose you named the best fillers for that to make it simple.

    Lot of work? but if you make it nice, I guess it will be worth it. 20-30 mm down from the port I take issue with however?

    Dave Kirk is like me a bit, I really don't feel warm and fuzzy over the sockets but on that model you are so right, chopping that up is really too much work for me ?

    I wish you Luck with it !
    Freddy

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    Default Re: 2-piece seatstays?

    Quote Originally Posted by suhacycles View Post
    Dave - I see what you mean. I know the ones you're referring to. The one I have is the 'P23' listed under the 'Other Oversize Cast Seat Lugs' section:

    http://www.ceeway.com/NEWPARTSPAGES/lugs.htm

    Those sockets don't look that easy to lop off...

    -Hansen
    With that seat lug it does look like you are stuck using the sockets.

    dave
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