visually proper bikes

[Roman]

what degree of slope is on that wonderful blue Steelman?

[Saab2000]

I want the Nucleon tubulars that are on that wonderful blue Steelman. Proper wheels for a proper bicycle.

[endo shi]

what degree of slope is on that wonderful blue Steelman?

Ask the man himself. I think it's his personal bike.

[hmbatrail]

Non-offset posts don't make me cringe in the slightest.

There, I said it.

Thank Christ you said something because I was beginning to think I was the only person on the planet that feels that way.

Reasonable people are free to disagree about the aesthetics of a seatpost (because after all, this shit is important!) but to make a blanket statement that zero-offset posts equals poor fit is nonsense.

[El Chaba]

proper?

Excellent...So good, in fact, that I barely noticed the zero-setback post.

[dsteady]

what degree of slope is on that wonderful blue Steelman?

lLooks to be 7-8º. That bike is gorgeous.

[giordana93]

please, let's leave stupid homophobic comments out of this thread. there is no way you can defend calling anatomic bars gay.. moreover, anyone who thinks properly set up anatomic bars look worse than round bars that are rotated 20 degrees with the drops pointing to the ground so that the flats are horizontal, or that a zero offset post with the saddle squarely in the middle of the rails looks worse than an offset post with the saddle pushed all the way forward or back looks right, is just a pitiful slave to fashion. this thread has gingerly walked between an ok series of nice bikes and comments and ridiculous pontifications over what is "right" (i.e. not gay) in matters of taste and orthodoxy. comments like this have no place in the discussion --nothing personal against the commentator
thanks in advance for keeping the discussion intelligent and not a sermon

please.... lets leave the gay bars and non setback posts out of this thread.

thanks in advance!

[ergott]

discussion intelligent

You missed the point of this thread entirely.

-Eric

[giordana93]

apparently

I've seen gay-bars and seat bags.

This thread is done.

-Eric

[alexis]

As someone who is actually gay (****-gay, not bent in unnecessary places-gay), I must say that the term 'gay bars' (or 'ghey bars') does not offend me in the least.

Improperly placed hoods do however offfend my sensibilities.

[Eric Estlund]

That being said, there's always an exception to any rule.

I'm that exception- running zero offset posts are what first had me pay attention to STA before I was building. I still run them, and it is very much on purpose. When I see one on a bike I assume the person is addressing a fit need, not a style requirement. Maybe that's just me.



(I know some of you hate Brooks- I like the look, but this was swapped for a Flite for the bottom's sake)

[davids]

As someone who is actually gay (****-gay, not bent in unnecessary places-gay), I must say that the term 'gay bars' (or 'ghey bars') does not offend me in the least.

Improperly placed hoods do however offfend my sensibilities.

As someone who is not gay, but is pretty dang sensitive about bigotry and hate, I feel the same way. It's always seems more like a semi-clever pun to me. Which is about as good as puns get.

But this is a big, public place so we should probably be careful about how we throw around these potentially incendiary terms.

Carry on.

[MIN]

I'm that exception- running zero offset posts are what first had me pay attention to STA before I was building. I still run them, and it is very much on purpose. When I see one on a bike I assume the person is addressing a fit need, not a style requirement. Maybe that's just me.


(I know some of you hate Brooks- I like the look, but this was swapped for a Flite for the bottom's sake)

Is this your personal bike? How is this even ridable for extended periods? The saddle is in front of the bottom bracket; you normally see this sort of (lack of) setback on tri-bikes where the weight is supported on the elbow pads. In a road bike context, one would have to support their weight on the hands and wrists with the added penalty of skewed weight distribution.

The short railed Brooks saddle exacerbates the problem. Not poking fun - just trying to understand the apparently disconnect of the rhetoric that you look at STA but the reality of no saddle setback.

[snah]

I'm that exception- running zero offset posts are what first had me pay attention to STA before I was building. I still run them, and it is very much on purpose. When I see one on a bike I assume the person is addressing a fit need, not a style requirement. Maybe that's just me.



(I know some of you hate Brooks- I like the look, but this was swapped for a Flite for the bottom's sake)

No offense if you're the owner of this rig, but it doesn't look visually right to me. Maybe it's the wheelset, maybe the Force groupset. Probably just me, but a Campy alloy group, Mavic Open Pros, Campy hubs, spells sweetness with this frame.

[lavi]

I guess I don't get the zero offset / setback debate. I could be very wrong, but atmo, setbacks or lack thereof are for dealing with fit type issues on off the peg / new to you bikes. Zero setbacks to me could mean that a bike has custom geo or by luck of the draw is set up perfectly on purpose without need a setback to compensate for something.

Am I totally off base and have been missing something in that setback posts are for the aesthetic elite? I'm serious in that I really don't know. I ride with a seatbag for chrissake because I don't like the feel of shit swinging around in my pockets. Please educate this moron.

[endo shi]

Lars Boom's bike.

[jerk]

as the inventor of the term ghey-bars- i am glad people are not offended. otherwise i'd have to change my catch phrase for anatomic handlebars to strip bars, dive bars, drag bars, karaoke bar, airport bars, single bars, cocktail bars or biker bars or something else equally divisive and stupid sounding. i for one, love ghey bars....good enough for evgeni berzin or oscar wilde good enough for me.

[mimbresman]

I've had this bike a long time and I still stare at it, so I guess its visually proper for me. When riding, I zone out on this bike.
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(note: in pic is a single speed, now currently in 1 x 9 mode).

[mrlee]

I'll throw my hat into the ring.
You've seen this one before . This is my workhorse.
As for the Crumpton sale, it had nothing to do with the "image" or the product. I loved that bike visually and performance wise . I needed $ for another project and i decided to let her go to a new loving home where she is now raced in anger.
Cheers
david

[lavi]

^^^^^ thick!