Re: It's telling that there's an Impeachment thread on VS...
Regarding the oft-repeated claim that because there were Democrats already talking about impeachment when he was inaugurated, it somehow invalidates the effort. It was logical and legitimate because he cheated to win the election.
The payments to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal were illegal, and Michael Cohen is doing time for it. Any lawyer would know it was illegal, the decision would be a) would they get caught, b) could they beat it in court, and c) how many people would care. On that last one, I'd have thought we would care, that the holder of our highest office should be held to the highest standard, especially when it comes to how they attained that office.
And whether or not one agrees that the Mueller Report lays out evidence that the campaign knowingly accepted foreign interference in the election, one should acknowledge the sheer number of people who have been indicted for lying to the investigators. Flynn, Stone, Gates, Papadopoulos, van der Zwaan, and Kilimnik. Manafort's crimes included witness tampering. Many were also busted for financial crimes associated with the campaign.
There's a lot of there there. So of course the push to investigate and impeach has always been there.
Last edited by thollandpe; 12-29-2019 at 10:58 AM.
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