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[vertical_doug]

Kudos to you for challenging the accuracy of something presented that happens to agree with your larger world view. That’s an admirable trait that is in short supply these days.

Except, the conclusion doesn't differ by much. We go from a really huge number to just a really large number.
It's a bit like throwing a deck chair of the Titanic. The ship will still sinks....

[thollandpe]

Methane is 25 x as powerful a green house gas as carbon...

Using 25 for the global warming potential (GWP) of carbon is the number for a 100-year time horizon. Most calculations are now using a shorter time horizon, 20 years, where the effect of methane is much stronger.

The 20-year GWP for methane is 85!

Understanding Global Warming Potentials | Greenhouse Gas (GHG) Emissions | US EPA

Challenging numbers and orthodoxies is not in short supply, it’s pretty much what scientists and engineers do. Every damn day.

[Dallas Tex]

Challenging numbers and orthodoxies is not in short supply, it’s pretty much what scientists and engineers do. Every damn day.

Only on the topics where it is accepted to do so.

[Dallas Tex]

Except, the conclusion doesn't differ by much. We go from a really huge number to just a really large number.
It's a bit like throwing a deck chair of the Titanic. The ship will still sinks....

Don’t sell yourself short. Tenured university professors have been forced out for questioning methods, while agreeing with conclusions or goals.

Unless I’m wrong, your ‘challenge’ to the accuracy was met with a bit of anger and misunderstanding. Despite the fact you made your intentions quite clear.

[vertical_doug]

Don’t sell yourself short. Tenured university professors have been forced out for questioning methods, while agreeing with conclusions or goals.

Unless I’m wrong, your ‘challenge’ to the accuracy was met with a bit of anger and misunderstanding. Despite the fact you made your intentions quite clear.

I didn't read it like that. Guido referenced were the quote was sourced and why he thought it a good quote. This is great then it allows more investigation. I think what Guido was implying is 'Don't shoot the messenger'.

More importantly, Steve Chu may be right and I may be wrong since the New Yorker article isn't listing assumptions. His assumptions may be more fully loaded, and he may be correct since I am leaving something out. But to be fair, Steve Chu is referencing green house gases which includes methane while my first numbers only looked at carbon.

However, we still come to the same conclusion- just a slightly smallert numbers but the Titanic is still sinking. If you think about it, I have taken 6 round trips NYC to London and 3 round trips NYC to Tokyo and that greenhouse gas footprint is about equal to a family of 4 annual beef consumption. As they say in Minnesota, Uff Da!

[thollandpe]

Yeah, sorry Doug, About the doxxing, dispatching that army of angry trolls and social media bots, all the threats to you and your family, the mound of spurious Freedom of Information Act requests that interfere with you doing your real work, and the threat of criminal investigation made on the Senate floor.

Oh wait, that's what happens to climate scientists. Those who question the orthodoxy bought and paid for by Exxon/Mobil and the Koch Bothers, and troweled on by the American Enterprise Institute.

Illuminating journalism: Inhofe accused of turning climate row into 'McCarthyite witch-hunt' | Environment | The Guardian

[guido]

I have been wondering if we ought to ask the TX authorities to check under the bridges in the Dallas area to see of one was missing...

[vertical_doug]

Yeah, sorry Doug, About the doxxing, dispatching that army of angry trolls and social media bots, all the threats to you and your family, the mound of spurious Freedom of Information Act requests that interfere with you doing your real work, and the threat of criminal investigation made on the Senate floor.

Oh wait, that's what happens to climate scientists. Those who question the orthodoxy bought and paid for by Exxon/Mobil and the Koch Bothers, and troweled on by the American Enterprise Institute.

Illuminating journalism: Inhofe accused of turning climate row into 'McCarthyite witch-hunt' | Environment | The Guardian

Yeap, if you use 85 , then 4 lbs of beef is 1/4 of a London flight. It looks like my annual carbon footprint from flying equals the burger consumption of a teenage boy. Uffda

[Dallas Tex]

I have been wondering if we ought to ask the TX authorities to check under the bridges in the Dallas area to see of one was missing...

This post of yours looks like trolling much more than anything that I posted.

[monadnocky]

This post of yours looks like trolling much more than anything that I posted.

Perhaps.... but only if you subscribe to established orthodoxies of what constitutes trolling.

[davids]

Hey, let's move on to a less fraught topic: The Middle-Class Crunch: A Look at 4 Family Budgets - The New York Times

[ides1056]

back to fraught:

George Conway: Trump Is Unfit for Office - The Atlantic

[ericpmoss]

back to fraught:

George Conway: Trump Is Unfit for Office - The Atlantic

It's people like you that keep us from having a moat at the border with sharks and alligators and sharp pointy spiky things. ;)

[davids]

back to fraught:

George Conway: Trump Is Unfit for Office - The Atlantic

Do he and Kellyanne have kids?

Because that's the piece I'm waiting for: When one of them writes their memoir of George and Kellyanne's marriage. How have they stayed together?

[ericpmoss]

Do he and Kellyanne have kids?

Because that's the piece I'm waiting for: When one of them writes their memoir of George and Kellyanne's marriage. How have they stayed together?

Maybe they release tension by swinging with the Carvilles. Ew.

[theflashunc]

Do he and Kellyanne have kids?

Because that's the piece I'm waiting for: When one of them writes their memoir of George and Kellyanne's marriage. How have they stayed together?

This is clearly some kink the two of them have.

[guido]

Opinion | The Education of Fanatical Centrists - The New York Times

[guido]

When Biking and Bears Don’t Mix - The New York Times

[guido]

The Invention of the Conspiracy Theory on Biden and Ukraine | The New Yorker

[Scott G.]

From July, when the light in the tunnel was a faint glow....


Will Hunter Biden Jeopardize His Father’s Campaign? | The New Yorker