Automobiles

[Jason Musgrave]

Assume you are talking Fiesta ST. If that's the case I'd never attempt to talk you out of one. They are fantastic little cars - even when driven back to back with REALLY nice rigs. Too bad we don't get the new one, but the one available here is still pretty damn solid.

I drove an ST and REALLY liked it. That said I was thinking of just a normal NA 1.6 to save a little coin.

[rmplum]

I drove an ST and REALLY liked it. That said I was thinking of just a normal NA 1.6 to save a little coin.

If you can drive the regular 1.6L Fiesta around every day and not have the "I shoulda bought an ST" drumbeat constantly beating in your head then you are a better/stronger man than I.

[Jason Musgrave]

If you can drive the regular 1.6L Fiesta around every day and not have the "I shoulda bought an ST" drumbeat constantly beating in your head then you are a better/stronger man than I.

I really did love the ST I drove but I don't know that giving a turbo car to a 16 year old is the wisest choice even if it means I don't have as much fun for the next 3 years.

[rmplum]

D'oh! Missed the part about the 16year old inheriting this. May be a good call with the 1.6 Maybe you can buy someone's hand me down ST suspension bits. Father son upgrade project!

[Jason Musgrave]

D'oh! Missed the part about the 16year old inheriting this. May be a good call with the 1.6 Maybe you can buy someone's hand me down ST suspension bits. Father son upgrade project!

Now we are on the same wave-length. ST suspension/brakes and maybe a LSD.

[Too Tall]

Now we are on the same wave-length. ST suspension/brakes and maybe a LSD.

Endorsed. I like your thinking too.

[j44ke]

I don't think I'd be buying a rally car ....

Of course. I just meant the chasm was pretty deep and wide. And you did say talk you out of it. But if you are going to add lots of aftermarket stuff to it, I guess sky's the limit.

[sk_tle]

Talking about small cars my mazda 2 is much better behind the wheel than a fiesta or a fit. Mazda really dialed the steering input.

[winmonster]

Agreed. Mazda chassis tuning is beyond their competitors at the same price points, and they are typically reliable with cheap maintenance.

[xjoex]

Car cruise in town last night.





-Joe

[dogstar]

Modified my Rabbit GTI this week and it looks like I'll be taking the bus to work tomorrow!

Damn I am really happy with my first VW and I am really happy with its new Michelin PS4s! Anywhere from one to ten inches of snow tomorrow. Sigh....

Summer tires are the first and probably best mod I could ever have done to my GTI, but no winter tires until next November, please.

[Lionel]

I spent the afternoon driving my friend's new GT3 touring. The only thing I can say is wow. This thing is absolutely INCREDIBLE. The NA 4.0L 500hp 9000rpm redline is to die for and sounds like nothing else. The manual sport 6S gear box is another incredible piece, so much better than the 7S 911T that I tried. Anyway, this thing blew my mind.

[Too Tall]

Modified my Rabbit GTI this week and it looks like I'll be taking the bus to work tomorrow!

Damn I am really happy with my first VW and I am really happy with its new Michelin PS4s! Anywhere from one to ten inches of snow tomorrow. Sigh....

Summer tires are the first and probably best mod I could ever have done to my GTI, but no winter tires until next November, please.

Sorry about the weather, I heard. Wait til you try those PS4s in rain....wow.

Lionel, that there is a really really nice version of the 911. Agreed. Also agreed I've got no use for the turbos, they are actually too much car.

[Lionel]

Lionel, that there is a really really nice version of the 911. Agreed. Also agreed I've got no use for the turbos, they are actually too much car.

I do not see how any car can be much better. In fact my buddy went from 991.1 GT3 PDK to a 12 cylinder Ferrari back to this car. This GT3 is way too much car for any open road actually. The sound of this thing above 5000rpm is insane. I've been searching for one but the prices are not quite in check with dealers asking anywhere from $15K to $50K over MSRP.....

[jerk]

Sorry about the weather, I heard. Wait til you try those PS4s in rain....wow.

Lionel, that there is a really really nice version of the 911. Agreed. Also agreed I've got no use for the turbos, they are actually too much car.

the GT3 is more hardcore than the turbo 911s. That thing is a beast. I'm not sure I love touring look though- the wide bodies always look kind of dumb to me without dumb wings and splitters. still- a GT3 is pretty much the best car in the world IMHO.

[Lionel]

the GT3 is more hardcore than the turbo 911s. That thing is a beast. I'm not sure I love touring look though- the wide bodies always look kind of dumb to me without dumb wings and splitters. still- a GT3 is pretty much the best car in the world IMHO.

I love the touring look. Most people see it as a "basic" 911. I cannot see myself driving around with a GT3 with the wing, but I can definitely see myself driving around i one of these. Still wowed from the drive yesterday. Too bad that getting one is quite hard and there is no way I will ever pay over MSRP for any car.

Oh and the one I drove was ordered with sofa seats instead of full carbon buckets. Makes more sense for a touring. The full buckets I sat on at the dealer are pretty hard to get in and out of. This car had them so I got to sit in there for a while.

[72gmc]

The GT3 touring is the one I'd want, if it was realistic to want one.

[Lionel]

I am having a hard time getting this car out of my head !

[NYCfixie]

I am having a hard time getting this car out of my head !

Trade-in/Trade-up...it's the American way (even for the French who are often here).

[ldamelio]

Lionel - 991.2 GT3 prices have dropped to near or at MRSP in the last few months in many parts of the country. Touring a little higher, but there are better deals out there than the $15 - 50k over that you mentioned. Caveat is that these are for prices on existing car spec'd by dealer, not order slots, which are all gone at this point. There's a gorgeous winged chalk (crayon) at my dealer asking 5k over to start. The itch is strong.