Woke Mobster
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And before we go too far down the rabbit hole of all felons being violent people, let's remember there are occasional felony convictions for white-collar crime like campaign finance violation, tax evasion, securities fraud, obstructing justice, conspiracy, and making false statements to federal investigators.
Those people get out too.
TH
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I'm not. Texas was never part of the confederacy.Originally Posted by Daltex
The whole disenfranchisement goes back to immediately after the Civil War. In 1865, Florida passed the laws known as the black codes. IN 1868, they added the voting ban on felons which included many minor 'black code' crimes. (vagrancy and disobedience being two favorites)
In 1889 Florida added the poll tax. And then the literacy test ' spell backwards forward please'. In 1940, 3% of blacks were registered to vote. It wasn't until 1960's that the rules changed,
In 2011, Gov Rick Scott erased these reforms adding a 5 yr window and requiring felons to appear before the clemency board.
The Palm Beach Post investigated the clemency board and found Scott returned voting rights to white felons vs black felons at a 3 to 1 ratio.
Grimpeur
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I must be reading this incorrectly. Are you saying in 2011 Rick Scott erased the reforms that eliminated the poll tax and the literacy test?
OTF
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Generally right. Though Texas did join the C.S.A., it was wildly unpopular with the citizens. Texas isn't really The South, as I often try to explain to non-Texans. What happened in 1861 doesn't really jibe with the state's culture and attitude toward human rights and the Civil War. Not much bloodshed here during the conflict, and that's a big part of why there's no real Southern identity here. To this day, we generally don't care what the rest of you do as long as you leave us alone. There's an arrogance to that, but more a desire for mutual respect. Live and let live, as they say.
Rouleur
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not so sure it's upon release...
US voter suppression: why this Texas woman is facing five years' prison | US news | The Guardian
there is also this nice little piece here.
"Birdsall pointed out that in contrast to the long custodial sentences of both Ortega and Mason – a Hispanic and an African American woman respectively who both insist they voted mistakenly – a white male judge in Tarrant county that includes Fort Worth pleaded guilty in April to forging many signatures as he sought re-election. Russ Casey’s was a conscious act by his own admission, yet he was punished with only probation."
Grimpeur
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Don't even try to explain Juneteenth to non-Texans :)
Grimpeur
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Yes, you are correct. I guess the supervised release is considered part of the sentence. I'm 100% against voter fraud of nay kind, but this seems like lunacy to pursure charges on this woman is this situation.
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No, I left out a part. Sorry
The 1960's did away with a poll taxes, etc.
Gov Charlie Crist eased restrictions on felons and restored many voting rights to ex-felons. In 2011, Rick Scott did away with these reforms and placed new restrictions.
"The Fantastic Mr. David!"
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Ah.
My point was that there are different ways to see punishment. There are a lot of people who think that once a person has served their time, they have paid the price for they're crime.
There is also the idea of rehabilitation. That a person cannot only be punished, but can emerge from their stint as a better person.
These ideas are not partisan.
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