Automobiles

[Rich S]

A few more pics from Saturday with some Bimmer 2002 rallye/race machines.

Maybe it's just me, but I find the BMW 2002s to be far more appealing than the Lamborghinis of a couple of posts back. My dad had a '69 2002, it rusted out long before I could drive it anywhere but back and forth in our ~40' long driveway.

[rwsaunders]

Maybe it's just me, but I find the BMW 2002s to be far more appealing than the Lamborghinis of a couple of posts back. My dad had a '69 2002, it rusted out long before I could drive it anywhere but back and forth in our ~40' long driveway.

I know what you mean...the 2002's, vintage Porsches, vintage Vettes and most of the 60's British cars grab my attention.

[Too Tall]

Few things corner as well as a 2002 with semi-crappy street tires...I meant "are as fun to corner"....

[jerk]

i love 2002s especially the tiis....but an early Countach is a pretty special car. i think if you take the Countach as the designers intended it- and remove the non-functional wing, all the airdams and side skirt bullshit- you have one of the most striking and most beautiful cars in the world. it's beautiful like a well placed knock-out throat punch in an MMA fight- but it's still beautiful.

i was looking around the internet last night and happened upon a dream car that in a different world would be ALMOST attainable for a poor bike shop owner like me- someday i'll have something like this of the prices ever settle down. (which they won't.)

check this out: https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...1/2077689.html

[Too Tall]

You have good taste but we knew that. Everything is right about those cars.

i love 2002s especially the tiis....but an early Countach is a pretty special car. i think if you take the Countach as the designers intended it- and remove the non-functional wing, all the airdams and side skirt bullshit- you have one of the most striking and most beautiful cars in the world. it's beautiful like a well placed knock-out throat punch in an MMA fight- but it's still beautiful.

i was looking around the internet last night and happened upon a dream car that in a different world would be ALMOST attainable for a poor bike shop owner like me- someday i'll have something like this of the prices ever settle down. (which they won't.)

check this out: https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...1/2077689.html

[dpcompt]

In the 1970's I owned a 1974 2002 tii. At the time, it was a stellar car compared to Pintos, Vegas, and all the Japanese small cars. But compared to anything built in the last 20 years, including almost all economy cars ( except the FCA cars), the old BMW 2002's are dinosaurs. It's the same with old Porsches. Nostalgia sounds good on paper, but when you get in one of these cars, it can be a big letdown.
I have a '17 Cayman S. The car was constantly trashed by all the Magazines and all the assholes PCA people. But guess what, after a few of the followers actually drove one , they started to come around. In the reverse, imagine looking at a 2002tii for 30-40k and going for a test drive. 120hp, 165 Michelins, totally tippy, marginal brakes. I guess I just don't get this nostalgia stuff.

[Too Tall]

In the 1970's I owned a 1974 2002 tii. At the time, it was a stellar car compared to Pintos, Vegas, and all the Japanese small cars. But compared to anything built in the last 20 years, including almost all economy cars ( except the FCA cars), the old BMW 2002's are dinosaurs. It's the same with old Porsches. Nostalgia sounds good on paper, but when you get in one of these cars, it can be a big letdown.
I have a '17 Cayman S. The car was constantly trashed by all the Magazines and all the assholes PCA people. But guess what, after a few of the followers actually drove one , they started to come around. In the reverse, imagine looking at a 2002tii for 30-40k and going for a test drive. 120hp, 165 Michelins, totally tippy, marginal brakes. I guess I just don't get this nostalgia stuff.

Eyes wide open chief. It is the funkiness of driving a dinosaur that adds to the experience or "driving a slow car fast might be more fun than driving a fast car faster"? That's all. I learned my lesson ages ago wrt what you say. IIRC I was driving my (former) 57 wagon. It had a (cough) pretty healthy small block and gears. Having a Dodge Challenger wagon that was loaded with 8X8 lumber walk away like it was a Sunday stroll cured me. This is not that.

Caymens flick around the autocross course like waterbugs, they are very impressive.

From a local car show. This one is for @justin@blackoakvelo

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[rwsaunders]

I met Silvia at last weekend’s event...pass the grey Poupon please.

[dpcompt]

Eyes wide open chief. It is the funkiness of driving a dinosaur that adds to the experience or "driving a slow car fast might be more fun than driving a fast car faster"? That's all. I learned my lesson ages ago wrt what you say. IIRC I was driving my (former) 57 wagon. It had a (cough) pretty healthy small block and gears. Having a Dodge Challenger wagon that was loaded with 8X8 lumber walk away like it was a Sunday stroll cured me. This is not that.

Caymens flick around the autocross course like waterbugs, they are very impressive.

From a local car show. This one is for @justin@blackoakvelo

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I visit "Cars and Coffee Folsom" practically every Saturday. It's replaced my Saturday bike rides. It's an amazing show of cars. Yesterday there were over 300 cars. VWs, Ferraris, old and new BMWs, Porsches, every American brand you can think off. And to me, the part that I enjoy most that we are all car nuts. Yesterday I had a great conversation with a guy that had his '61 Corvette with a 283 with a 4 speed and two 4 barrels and matching numbers. And right next to him was a McClaren 720. There's a Lotus 7 owner that is there often and he used to be the helicopter traffic guy for the local KCRA tv station.
I took my 40 yo son, visiting from Texas, and he had never seen so many cool cars. And coincidentally, the local BMWCC showed up in numbers and guess what was there: a perfect '74 2002 tii.
The owner had fully restored the car, body off frame. Anyway, I ENJOY CARS, old or new.

[vertical_doug]

RM Sotheby's - 1963 Aston Martin DP215 Grand Touring Competition Prototype | Monterey 218

RM Sotheby's - 1962 Ferrari 25 GTO by Scaglietti | Monterey 218

unfortunately, I am not feeling flush.

The AM prototype is awesome.

[Too Tall]

The Ferrari of course. The AM certainly is lovely. Hopefully someone will have the cajones to vintage race the d@mn things.

[maunahaole]

Spied a prewar BMW 328 in Belgium driving around. I’ll be damned if that just wasn’t dripping elegance.

[Too Tall]

Spotted this one parked on the residents only floor of a local apt. complex.
Gotta say, it looks dangerous enough to drive. License plate "Byeeee" which might be a Deadpool reference.
Open hedders, old rug seat covers, excellent cooling system. I'd say this one's a runner.
Wrong license, should say "steal this car".

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[Lionel]

For the second time in Pescadero today I saw the same new 911 GT3 touring in GT Silver. This car is having me salivate, close to perfect.

[pdmtong]

some of the local cars seen while riding...
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[dpcompt]

For the second time in Pescadero today I saw the same new 911 GT3 touring in GT Silver. This car is having me salivate, close to perfect.

Today at Cars and Coffee Folsom, I saw a Porsche 911R, black with red stripes. The first and only one I have ever seen in person. Six speed manual, 9000+ redline. It just can't get any better.

[Lionel]

Today at Cars and Coffee Folsom, I saw a Porsche 911R, black with red stripes. The first and only one I have ever seen in person. Six speed manual, 9000+ redline. It just can't get any better.

Yep, the GT3 touring is quite close to a 911R. 4L NA engine with 6 speed MT. Must be freaking awesome to drive.

[twowheels]

The problem with the new GT and turbo P cars is that they no longer use the dry sump motor. If I were seeking another ultimate late model P car, it would certainly have to have the dry sump.

[Saab2000]

I have begun to wonder if if shouldn’t just replace my 2006 GTI with a new, 2018 GTI.

I like the idea of modern infotainment, near-0 miles on the odo, more power, same fuel economy, etc.

Anyone with a 2018 able to compare with an older version?

[twowheels]

Jim, I have a 2018 DSG R. It replaced my 2017 6MT R. The 18 is better than the 17; the dash and info system is nicer, the heads and tails are better, the warranty is better (now 6 yrs). It's a great chassis and a very well built machine. The GTI shares many features of the R and is very close to the same experience for a lot less $$$. Drive a new GTI, it is worlds better than your 2006. And don't discount the DSG. I was a hard core MT user but the new VW manual box isn't very good and the new DSG is excellent.