tom brady schools the officials

[SteveP]

in the sunday game two times
brady corrected officials calls by pointing out a correct interpretation of the rules.

he was right both times and 2 calls were reversed.

talk about presence of mind.

[monadnocky]

I know he's at the top of his game, still, but I've wondered if he should retire soon - leave the game while he's on top, and before the game itself becomes completely associated with sending young men (mostly of color) into the maw of the CTE machine. The writing is on the wall in terms of that...

An amazing athlete though. No doubt.

[gt6267a]

I know he's at the top of his game, still, but I've wondered if he should retire soon - leave the game while he's on top, and before the game itself becomes completely associated with sending young men (mostly of color) into the maw of the CTE machine. The writing is on the wall in terms of that...

An amazing athlete though. No doubt.

are you thinking we are marching towards the nf^2l (national flag football league)? not that I disagree. its unclear how the game in any current form will be played and avoid head injuries.

[Saab2000]

Talking heads in sports radio are mentioning the decline of football. Youth leagues and high schools don't have the depth they once did.

If the head injuries don't decline I see football as we know it today in big trouble over the next 20 years.

It's not just head injuries either. There seem to be more injuries of all sorts than I remember when I watched football as a kid. The athletes are stronger and faster so they injure themselves and each other more. Or so it seems.

[monadnocky]

The death of football will come from the unlikeliest of demographics: moms.

Key takeaways from BU’s study on youth football - The Boston Globe

I don't look forward to it - I'm a fan of the game. But it simply can't continue the way it is. Saab's right - athletes today are just so much more powerful compared to 30 years ago. Remember Refrigerator Perry in 1986? A freak because he was 300 pounds (and a lumbering 300 pounds at that?) Now, all linesman are 300 pounds and can run at Olympic 100 meter dash speeds.

Oh, and don't let the NFL fool you. Concussions ain't where it's at. It's all about the repeated subconcussive hits.

Sorry to dork up your thread about TB, Steve.

[vertical_doug]

Has Jerry Jones reversed his statement from last year saying there is no clear link between CTE and the repeated hits in the NFL?

[spopepro]

The "death" of the sport is going to be when insurers stop covering high school/youth sports leagues for liability, or the premiums become too cumbersome. Already football is in a tenuous place in most school districts because of the significant cost of supporting a program. I think in the next 5-10 years we will see most schools switching to 7-on-7 passing leagues.

Back on topic--if the officials frequently can't correctly apply the rules (which is different from missing a call, or making a bad judgement), you have a problem with your rulebook.

[Markco]

Perhaps a more objective take on the sampling in the BU CTE studies. Just wrap them all up in bubble wrap and we're good to go.

I'''m a brain scientist and I let my son play football

[Corso]

Smoking kills people. Alcohol kills people. Drugs kill people. Driving a car kills people. Riding bikes kills people.

We all make choices.

Players CHOOSE to be in the NFL. No one forces a player to play. No one forces anyone to light up a Marlboro, or pop that cork.

It simply “can” continue, as long as adults make the choice to play, and fans continue to watch. And spend.

Tom Brady is 40, and CHOOSES to play.

If some mom’s want to keep kids from playing, that’s their choice and I respect that.

Since this thread quickly got derailed, here’s another sidebar.
I’m more upset about the big business of college football-and the sham of scholarships for “education”.

Think of all the first rate colleges that have medical programs (doctors studying brain injury), and also have football teams. Do you think, for example, Stanford is going to cut football?

[Saab2000]

Smoking kills people. Alcohol kills people. Drugs kill people. Driving a car kills people. Riding bikes kills people.

We all make choices.

Players CHOOSE to be in the NFL. No one forces a player to play. No one forces anyone to light up a Marlboro, or pop that cork.

It simply “can” continue, as long as adults make the choice to play, and fans continue to watch. And spend.

Tom Brady is 40, and CHOOSES to play.

If some mom’s want to keep kids from playing, that’s their choice and I respect that.

Since this thread quickly got derailed, here’s another sidebar.
I’m more upset about the big business of college football-and the sham of scholarships for “education”.

Think of all the first rate colleges that have medical programs (doctors studying brain injury), and also have football teams. Do you think, for example, Stanford is going to cut football?

Nobody questions that the folks who play football do so by choice. I would have made the same choice 35 years ago too but my father didn't want us playing football. Ironic, because he was a big fan of the game of professional football, in particular the local Green Bay Packers. I'm not critical of the choices the athletes make but I'm distressed that it leads to injuries in people I have followed. When I see interviews with Jim McMahon saying he has suffered as a result of his career that bothers me because I enjoyed watching him when he played. Seeing Earl Campbell in a wheelchair is disturbing. When I was a kid he was a monster on the field. Today he can barely walk.

I just wish the game didn't have such a terrible toll on many of its participants because I like football and want to see it survive.

As to the hypocrisy of the NCAA, I agree 100%. It's exploitation of the student athletes. The universities only care about the money and couldn't care less if they graduate or have successful post-school lives.

Anyway, back on topic, no doubt Tom Brady is the GOAT QB or at least in the top three. He is incredibly fortunate to have gone to a team with the GOAT coach and an owner who is committed to winning as opposed to only being committed to making money.

[monadnocky]

I think the story for most iconic professional athletes has to do with the right relationship at the right time - Kareem and Wooden, for example. It's never about amazing genetics or dedication to individual training. Insert your favorite cycling parallel here.
Clearly, there's something amazing about the Brady- Belichick relationship. I just don't think he'd be the same QB with anyone else.

[rwsaunders]

Does this kid look like he would go on to be one of the greatest QB's ever?

[SteveP]

i agree w some of the conversation no doubt.
i thk his wife is a lot smarter than he is..
she wants him out now.

would be wise but i thk he is addicted by the thrill not to mention the success.

and today announced that his former tight end had the most severe case of cte ever seen in a 27 yr old.
( hernandez )

[72gmc]

Pointing out an error by an NFL official is not hard.

It is interesting that they listen to him and change their calls.

They didn't even change the call that time they thought Bernie Kosar's head was the football.

[72gmc]

They didn't even change the call that time they thought Bernie Kosar's head was the football.

(Changing my call) ... that time they thought vinny testaverde's head was the football.

[Corso]

and today announced that his former tight end had the most severe case of cte ever seen in a 27 yr old.
( hernandez )

I’m not 100% sure football is the only thing that may have caused Hernandez brain issues. Who knows what else that guy was up too.

I love how they are suing the Patriots and the NFL…but not the University of Florida, Bristol high school or youth organization he played for.

[TTX1]

I’m not 100% sure football is the only thing that may have caused Hernandez brain issues. Who knows what else that guy was up too.

I love how they are suing the Patriots and the NFL…but not the University of Florida, Bristol high school or youth organization he played for.

This.

I bet Hernandez intentionally head-butted a lot of people - with and without a helmet on his head.

Not to diminish any other point here...

[Jonathan]

I’m not 100% sure football is the only thing that may have caused Hernandez brain issues. Who knows what else that guy was up too.

I love how they are suing the Patriots and the NFL…but not the University of Florida, Bristol high school or youth organization he played for.

Hernandez was trouble the minute he arrived in Gainesville. For people who know the program this should be a blemish on Urban Meyer's reputation. The football team was almost a crime syndicate by the time he left. It's sad about Hernandez (more so his victims)Not sure which factors or all of them made him who he was.

[Andrevich4]

its unclear how the game in any current form will be played and avoid head injuries.

No pads or no football at all is how I see it going.

Maybe we transition to Rugby? Not sure how that impacts revenue streams for colleges.