NFS Chainlube & Race Grease: The wait is over

[devlin]

^ All the door knobs in my house turn butter smooth as well.

[Chik]

Been using the Silca version of the chain sauce. Awesome sauce.

[Too Tall]

Been using the Silca version of the chain sauce. Awesome sauce.

Sweet. Of all the environments NFS is used yours may be the most demanding or am I just channeling my inner Eddie?
Thanks Chik

[Chik]

Sweet. Of all the environments NFS is used yours may be the most demanding or am I just channeling my inner Eddie?
Thanks Chik

It's been relatively dry this year, so it has not been through the 'normal' conditions yet. (There might be some selective memory at work here given that I managed to bugger the BB bearings in just a few months because of the amount of water ingress left unaddressed...) That said, as I mentioned in my blog post, what really surprised me is how it manages to keep clean despite being oil-based. Why is that?

[Too Tall]

It's been relatively dry this year, so it has not been through the 'normal' conditions yet. (There might be some selective memory at work here given that I managed to bugger the BB bearings in just a few months because of the amount of water ingress left unaddressed...) That said, as I mentioned in my blog post, what really surprised me is how it manages to keep clean despite being oil-based. Why is that?

Why is that? I don't mean to be coy, that is my secret. Also, NFS has properties that allow it to exist only where it is needed and STAY there thus greatly reducing potential for exposed wet surfaces to collect contamination.


Helps?

[Chik]

Why is that? I don't mean to be coy, that is my secret. Also, NFS has properties that allow it to exist only where it is needed and STAY there thus greatly reducing potential for exposed wet surfaces to collect contamination. This is a similar proposition why waxes are so good without their shortcomings.


Helps?

I thought you might say that it's a secret! :)

Without their shortcomings, waxes would be good...

[Too Tall]

Chik I Agree.

FWIIW Friction Facts Lab ( Friction Facts ) results put NFS in the top of the most efficient lubes yet is trumped by waxes and some XYZ blends (heavy on the solvents). The man behind F.F. is a good scientist, we talked at length about precisely how the tests were performed to my 100% satisfaction. That said, it was a singular data point result only measuring efficiency under "new" chain / ring conditions which IMHFO only begins the real story because we do not pedal in a sterile laboratory environment! So here is the rub (ouch), in order to add some real world challenges to the test environment such as grit and moisture it will cost upwards $15K for each new factor or more. Lacking this information you must read into the results and look closely at the general composition(s) and intended usage of these products.

Basically, I kicked everyone's ;)

[mmoore]

I know everything is proprietary... but how did you come up with the mix you wanted? Did you describe your product to a manufacturer for them to mix and send samples or are you a mech. eng that sent a lubrication manufacturer what you needed as a mix and had them do that?

Im not asking for any secrets, I don't think?

[Too Tall]

Matt i have to bow out of details. I did have an epiphany which lead to seeking product that could do what I wanted. It took three tries, over thirty product testers and almost a year of field testing before i declared success.
Sorry boss, I can not say more.

I know everything is proprietary... but how did you come up with the mix you wanted? Did you describe your product to a manufacturer for them to mix and send samples or are you a mech. eng that sent a lubrication manufacturer what you needed as a mix and had them do that?

Im not asking for any secrets, I don't think?

[Saab2000]

Matt i have to bow out of details. I did have an epiphany which lead to seeking product that could do what I wanted. It took three tries, over thirty product testers and almost a year of field testing before i declared success.
Sorry boss, I can not say more.

Is the stuff available now different from the small sample bottle I got a few years back? Again, not asking for secrets, but wondering if the substance has evolved since those first samples appeared.

You gave me that bottle, IIRC, at one of the Friday coffee meetings in DC.

[Too Tall]

It has evolved. I changed the smell, re-tested and the bloody stuff got better. Doh!

Is the stuff available now different from the small sample bottle I got a few years back? Again, not asking for secrets, but wondering if the substance has evolved since those first samples appeared.

You gave me that bottle, IIRC, at one of the Friday coffee meetings in DC.

[Lionel]

See, now you are stuck with an old bottle for 3 or 4 years

[Saab2000]

See, now you are stuck with an old bottle for 3 or 4 years

Still works nicely. I have a couple bottles of newer stuff too. I'm not too worried about it!

[dogrange]

Personally I miss the smell, but it is smart business for you to reduce it.

[Bewheels]

TT - sounds like you need to have a line of different aromas.

This should help you get started...
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[dogrange]

Brian, where does the signature old-skool NFS "eau de burned tires" fit in there? Let me see, Is it an Oriental Resin .. . sorta, probably more dry woods+scorched leather . . . .

[Too Tall]

Interesting chart B. , my sis used to be quite the essential oil importer and I've learned oodles listening to her take on things.

I've got a nearly odorless, bio-degradable product waiting in the wings for the right time to introduce it. During testing people's reaction was that when something like chainlube has no scent it may not be effective or worth paying for!!!

[dogrange]

Olive oil?

[Too Tall]

Olive oil?

Omg no. This stuff is rocket science.

[Too Tall]

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