We--and a lot of other folks--are talking about them. Mission accomplished. Ad spend—Zero Dollars.
Agree with their stated POV or not about NAHBS bikes specifically, I don't think that's really the point.
+1 I would like to know how they got the "air time" on Velo News. If I write an "open letter" to Velo News about something, especially that's got this much BS in it, is it going to get published? Yeah...NO.
Frankly, I'd never heard of these guys until now. So, I guess mission accomplished on their part, but for the wrong reason IMO. It's pretty unlikely that I would use them now. Also.....if they want to be at Nahbs I am sure they can find folks that are open to displaying their stuff on a frame. Also, can't they just rent a booth?
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???? im not following where that even came from
i came across that reading about what colnagos marketing new toy was all about and wondered what the actual meaning of it was ? completely puzzled by it as i would think a lot of the NAHBS builders would have either their own or at least some builder they have a working relationship with, hence i posted it here more to get WTF it was on about
they got pixel-space at vn cuz there's an extremely permeable boundary between "cycling journalist" and "cycling pr flak"
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I'm not a fan of the open letter thing, but fwiw I've had wheels from wheelbuilder and they were all excellent with great service.
There isn't one. Its a straw man argument designed to drive traffic to Wheelbuilder.com - Handcrafted Precision Custom Bicycle Race Wheels
I get my custom wheels from Jude Kirstein: Sugar Wheel Works / Portland, OR Top notch wheels and service.....and she built wheels that were on display in my booths at Nahbs in years past.
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I hope the guys displaying at the show aren't using factory made drive trains. Surely only handbuilt components should be shown on show bikes. 8-/
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Maybe I'll give her a shot. I've had wheels built by a few folks and have been happy with most. I've also ridden factory wheels that were awesome (mostly what I'm on these days). I even plan to pull the trigger on a set from Boyd. My point is just that shoddy velonews journalism shouldn't take away from the WB folks and their quality work. If they had a banner ad on the side of the page next to a review of the super-uber Colnagorello C.think60 race frame (which is true journalism), would anyone care?*
*Apologies in advance if I'm coming off as pissy. I'm at the end of my 4th 13+hour day in a row and I'd grump in that other thread but I'm too tired to know if it's Thursday or not, and if I'm wrong I can't physically do pushups thanks to injury.
IMO any wheelbuilder is probably more than welcome to provide wheels to most framebuilders for the show, assuming they see eye-to-eye on things.
I've had wheels built by a few different people and my favorites are from Adam Schwarcz in Oakland and Justin Spinelli in Boston.
Justin who?
I don't get that impression at all. I was just giving a shout out to the Sugar Wheelworks.
With respect to VN...maybe I am wrong, but wasn't it the WB folks that wrote the "letter"? ....and, therefore, the actual folks throwing us builders (who do offer custom wheels and take them to shows) under the bus?
Last edited by Dave Anderson; 03-06-2014 at 08:12 PM.
I kind of took like a lame marketing ploy with some hyperbole thrown in to get attention for custom built wheels, more than throwing frame builders under the bus. But, I'm not a frame builder so my opinion doesn't really count for much here. Now if it was an open letter to computer geeks who love bikes, I might feel differently.
Either way, your endorsement of Sugar Wheelworks just got Jude on my radar, and that's a good thing.
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