being comfortable or being uncomfortable - discuss.

[Saab2000]

Got another email. I'm not welcome here, evidently, too un-PC. Sorry fatties.

Let's get this back on track: y'all can't ball with a spare tire. I certainly can't.

Discuss.

Yer not unwelcome. Just that some of us used to be 150 lbs and 6' tall. Now I'm a bit heavier, but I still ride OK. I know what a real ride is like and a real bike is like and just because I'm carrying a few extra lbs doesn't mean I don't get it. Same with a lot of other folks.

Life got in the way of my 150 lbs. I have a mortgage to pay and a real job to pay it with. I feel lucky if I get to ride 3 days in a week. Doesn't mean I have to ride a Cervelo with a riser stem and 3" of spacers.

[jitahs]

Yer not unwelcome. Just that some of us used to be 150 lbs and 6' tall. Now I'm a bit heavier, but I still ride OK. I know what a real ride is like and a real bike is like and just because I'm carrying a few extra lbs doesn't mean I don't get it. Same with a lot of other folks.

Life got in the way of my 150 lbs. I have a mortgage to pay and a real job to pay it with. I feel lucky if I get to ride 3 days in a week. Doesn't mean I have to ride a Cervelo with a riser stem and 3" of spacers.

Exactly. It's about priorities. One can eat well, train or one can eat crap and ride. I'm making no value judgements, been on both sides.

Oh yeah I forgot: I do not understand human beings and what they are capable of.

[WadePatton]

Of course, we could also add weight into this pain equation. My Crumpton is 13 lb. 6 oz., my Bianchi is 14 lb. 5 oz. and even my aluminum Cervelo S1 is only 15 lb. 10 oz. Put me on an 18 lb. bike and I'm gonna start whining like a baby.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

i don't have any clue what my complete bicycle and bag and bottles weighs*, BUT i hurt me EVERY time i swing my leg over it...if it weighed fukking zero pounds i'd crank enough watts into it to hurt myself. that's just what i do.

*okay i lied. it weighs precisely something between 16 and 28 united states pounds approximately.

now i'll continue with the threadmo.

[jitahs]

OINK OINK.

It's easier to touch your toes without a spare tire in the way.

S'all I'm sayin yo.

(this is my illiterate voice. I have more.)

[rphetteplace]

Evidently I've offended everyone on the planet with an over 34" waistline. Me mailbox is fillin up.

Darren, see what you did?

Anyway, what I said is true. I did not call anyone fat. You looked in the mirror and made your own decision.

PS Anyone who's offended by my comments let's do this in public so others may understand the thought process. I don't want to hand hold everyone who sends me a PM.

Anyone offended should send pics of said pasty jelly roll to jitahs as his penance.

I kid I know I'm a fat bastard, but I have all the love for the bike.

[jitahs]

Anyone offended should send pics of said pasty jelly roll to jitahs as his penance.

I kid I know I'm a fat bastard, but I have all the love for the bike.

Please, the only Jelly Roll for me is Morton. I ain't (currently) no fatty.

[BBB]

Got another email. I'm not welcome here, evidently, too un-PC. Sorry fatties.

See you could have been imaginative and combined fattism and racism in the one post. Try, if you have more chins than a Hong Kong phone directory, you're just riding a bike. Now you're much better placed to offend the maximum number of people...

[jitahs]

See you could have been imaginative and combined fattism and racism in the one post. Try, if you have more chins than a Hong Kong phone directory, you're just riding a bike. Now you're much better placed to offend the maximum number of people...

Y'know I did put out a generous offer to the name-caller to call me a bunch of names in public, but he declined. Imagine that!

I don't call people names in public, not by the hair of my chinny chin-chins.

PS Ok, I'm going to call him a name: passive-aggressive. Ooo...Schleck...Ahh...

[jitahs]

Ok, I've just been offered to "discuss things face-to-face". I am scared. His waistline must be >34" and he's much smarter and more worldly. What to do?

[jsmillerjr]

Ok, I've just been offered to "discuss things face-to-face". I am scared. His waistline must be >34" and he's much smarter and more worldly. What to do?

Keep stirrin' the shit...it's been entertaining

[WadePatton]

You are/were a better athlete when you were younger/lighter.

We all were - the rest is delusional.

absolutely not true. at golf mebbe, but only because i don't practice (or play) now. i never had the mental acuity to hold a golf game together back then and lucked into all my wins. wrt my life now: i never was an endurance athlete as a younger person and haven't trained seriously since i learned what it takes on two wheels. but times they are a changin'.

treachery baby, embrace it, it's coming.

[jitahs]

(Wade said a bunch of shit here that I didn't understand as usual)
treachery baby, embrace it, it's coming.

Haven't you been following the thread? Treachery is here.

Agree - I'm a much better rider now than when younger.

Added later:

And disagree - I can't turn a double play now without blowing out a knee and it's glacially slow.

[jitahs]

Keep stirrin' the shit...it's been entertaining

I'm told it's "all about me". Wha.

Ok, I'll go talk about colored spacers somewhere else. That can't be controversial.

[Ben]

jitahs,
What you're doing is the opposite of what this place has been about. Stop it, please.

[jitahs]

jitahs,
What you're doing is the opposite of what this place has been about. Stop it, please.

Please, then, tell me the VS mission statement in your own words.

As I see it the thread is about position and attendant athletic ability to succumb to said position. Belly fat has everything to do with it. That's all.

[Ben]

Please, then, tell me the VS mission statement in your own words.

Being the bike forum for adults.

You're failing.

[jitahs]

Being the bike forum for adults.

You're failing.

And your contribution to this thread?

PS We're all adults. Only difference is some of us have a sense of humor. Shit talking is part and parcel of sport, which is what riding a bike hard is.

See, I wrapped it all up nicely.

[zetroc]

If I wanted to read this stuff, which I don't, I'd be on bikeforums.

[jitahs]

If I wanted to read this stuff, which I don't, I'd be on bikeforums.

Again, what have you added to the thread besides a critique of the thread?

Question for you: Are you in the thread to learn? Be entertained? Or add something?

Do you feel your athleticism plays a part in your position to allow you to go fast?

This "stuff" is illustrative of what happens when you make a strong statement about an arbitrary waistline measurement in order to promote conversation about what it takes to be balanced on the bike and whether it matters, if fitness over-rides all other considerations, etc. Thirty four is just a number I threw out. Pay it no literal mind. My take is you have to be fit and/or Saab to enjoy a big drop. The "stuff" is by-product to the discussion but points out people are sensitive about their bodies. I can't help that; I call it as I see it.

I simply do not understand the folks who are dropping in yet not getting that. The convo is more than bikes, it's also about self-perception and psychology.

[AntLockyer]

Darren this is interesting. There are hills here I simply can't get up in my low gear (39x23 or maybe 25 I can't remember). Sharp hills that come after only 30 odd miles but I just can't do it. Been close but something always makes me get off. I don't know if I could do it on a compact but I suspect so, I aint about to find out though as when/if I ever get strong enough to make it it's going to be one hell of an achievement. That sort of comfort is what you are talking about I think. Pain avoidance due to being on a bike though is an interesting one. I'd love to do 'bike riding', go slow enough to see the scenery and enjoy the journey but the fact is going slow just isn't comfortable for me. It hurts just as much as going fast but in different ways. It took me a long time to realise this.

Jitahs most of what you've posted in this thread has been awful.