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    Default Re: Calculating tube lengths

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    Dazza, what do you use for a CAD app?

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    as a noob i have to say that my hand was up. i check angles, otherwise the design process means very little-especially when one is trying to learn what tweak means what (in reality-not reviews legend).

    there's a bit of tolerance yo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pruckelshaus View Post
    Dazza, what do you use for a CAD app?
    It is not commercially available, which is a shame.
    It was written by a chap who worked at the A.I.S some years ago.
    I was involved with some tweaks to the program in efforts to bring it to market
    but the owner of the program has done nothing with it for 5years , SIGH!

    Every one now uses the other BikeCAD which I learn has some connection many years ago with the program I have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    nope. no need to draw them out - just make them. you could always scale it down.........OK - serious question for you noobies - how do you know if you angles on your finished product match you design? ever check? huh? ..........not so many hands going up in the class room now - Garro.
    I guess you don't need to but drawing in the CS helps me with dialing in that BB drop. Otherwise, both head and seat angles would be off if my CS-ST angle deviated much from the drawing which I check against the frame after each joint is finished. My seat angle looks pretty dead on in this photo:
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    Quote Originally Posted by suhacycles View Post
    I guess you don't need to but drawing in the CS helps me with dialing in that BB drop. Otherwise, both head and seat angles would be off if my CS-ST angle deviated much from the drawing which I check against the frame after each joint is finished. My seat angle looks pretty dead on in this photo:
    Henry, In regards to not bothering to draw in chainstays, once one has extrapolated the bb to steering axis number and the bottom of the head tube number from the drawing, the chainstay length and BB drop are directly set on the HJ fixture. I think maybe is a case of Fillet vs. lugs, if I was using lugs I would totally make a full drawing like you have there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricKeller View Post
    I can do trigonometry all day, and instead I use bikecad. Absent spending $300 on BikeCad, there are a few alternatives. Kinda wish the bikeCad upgrade would come out.

    yes, the spreadsheet is out there. Check this post from the framebuilder's list.

    There is also rattlecad
    Update, I'm liking rattlecad, especially because it uses a standard XML file to store its data. This allows me to edit the numbers like tt length directly, which is a lot faster; the rattlecad interface can be a little funky to figure out how to edit what dimension.

    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellman View Post
    Henry, In regards to not bothering to draw in chainstays, once one has extrapolated the bb to steering axis number and the bottom of the head tube number from the drawing, the chainstay length and BB drop are directly set on the HJ fixture. I think maybe is a case of Fillet vs. lugs, if I was using lugs I would totally make a full drawing like you have there.
    Yeah, having a jig would help but I get by with my trig and $25 worth of angle iron and clamps.

    -Henry, aka Hansen

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    Quote Originally Posted by suhacycles View Post

    -Henry, aka Hansen
    . Yikes, my appologies. Not sure what happend there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suhacycles View Post
    I guess you don't need to but drawing in the CS helps me with dialing in that BB drop. Otherwise, both head and seat angles would be off if my CS-ST angle deviated much from the drawing which I check against the frame after each joint is finished. My seat angle looks pretty dead on in this photo:
    put the rest of the tubes on and check back..... - Garro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    put the rest of the tubes on and check back..... - Garro.
    Yup... did that... looked good to me... =)
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