Dornbox Bicycles

[e-RICHIE]

this is chris' thread, not mine, but why did you say this, and what does it mean atmo -

Chris,


While Carl and Richard are both successful Professional framebuilders their frames and busniness models are very different.

[anthonymaietta]

this is chris' thread, not mine, but why did you say this, and what does it mean atmo -

My point was that Carl is business is mostly, if not all frame-based. His prices for a steel frame/fork are about half of yours and he has to build more of them to keep himself in business. You have an established soft good and lug business, build fewer frames and charge more for a frame/fork. While neither model is wrong, how you two go about making a sustainable living by building bicycle frames is very different. My point was that I think Chris needs to plan his path; whether it be more in your vein or more in Carl's vein and work towards making that work.

[e-RICHIE]

My point was that Carl is business is mostly, if not all frame-based. His prices for a steel frame/fork are about half of yours and he has to build more of them to keep himself in business. You have an established soft good and lug business, build fewer frames and charge more for a frame/fork. While neither model is wrong, how you two go about making a sustainable living by building bicycle frames is very different. My point was that I think Chris needs to plan his path; whether it be more in your vein or more in Carl's vein and work towards making that work.

we all start somewhere atmo.
i once made more frames and sold them at lower prices too.
check back with carl in the future and see if the gap narrows.