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    Cable stoppers are just a little part that do an important and vital job.
    As I work at the bench ideas float in and out of my cranium, and these ideas are from my perspective, my opinions and observations and others may be taken aback but “those slotted barrel cable stoppers are fugly, one sees the same looking part on supermarket cheapos, and I reckon they belong on them, they just don’t look correct on a fine bespoke bicycle”.
    My aesthetic pleasure was being offended. No apologies for being harsh, tell it as it is for me say I
    Yeah, they work, and they are super cheap to buy. But I tormented my self with thoughts of “how to do it better and look better”. I have been using stainless steel diver’s helmet style cable stoppers that I have CNC machined. They work, but still I am not satisfied. Any mechanico who has been around bikes for a while knows of people who perspire battery acid resulting in the brake cable casing frozen in the stopper, the paint work being destroyed as the rust starts at these moisture collection points, thus I strongly believe cable stoppers are best made from stainless steel, thus removing these problems. A fine hand made bespoke bicycle frame in the 21 st Century should have all the finer details. I could not care less about saving a few $ or 5 grams in the build, for me it is about making the best product and improving what I offer from my workshop for the client’s hard earned dollars. I am not a fan of internal rear brake cable, unless it is done properly with a sealed tube and terminating cable casing at the entry and exit points from the top tube. However, that is another subject for another day.
    So external under the top tube has been my standard since I saw them on the Raleigh team bikes circa 1980 and I feel it works the best.
    I cracked, do some thing about my torment. Onto the key board and some ideas are formed in the 3D CAD program.
    a. I wanted surface area and a round shore line, to remove stress from .40mm tubes {I have seen a couple of Italian made frames with .35 and .40mm top tubes fail next to cable stoppers}
    b. I wanted ease of brazing, so a preload filler slot to be included.
    c. Direct fitting of the brake outer casing with out silly ferrules
    d. The gear outer casing ferrule to fit nicely into the CS stopper
    e. Smooth rounded appearance so the stopper looks like it belongs being attached to the tube, not like a plonked on after thought.
    f. Must be stainless steel so removing corrosion issues due to perspiration or collection of road grime.
    g. No extra hassle time added to the construction process
    Note. I see no need for a slot in a road bike cable stopper because if the cabling is done correctly during assembly such as lubrication with “Slick Honey” or such like then one has no need to touch a cable until replacement is due.
    Next
    Some rapid prototypes made, which I had in my pocket at NAHBS.
    I pause
    I think
    Meanwhile Mary Ann commented that they look like “Limpets”.
    From then on the name stuck with us.
    Then I pressed the button and got the Limpet tools made.
    One for a 31.7mm top tube brake cable stopper
    One for a 28.6mm top tube brake cable stopper
    {there is no 25.4mm as we are now well into the 21 st Century}
    One for a chainstay cable stopper, 15.5 mm diameter and also tapered to fit the chainstay shape snugly.
    The first sample Limpets arrived early this week and I did some test runs.
    The pictures tell the story.
    My first production batch of Limpets is on order and I am eager to incorporate them into my frame work.
    Any questions?
    Any comments?
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    Last edited by Dazza; 04-21-2010 at 06:12 PM. Reason: for some reason #3 pic ends up first, bloody annoying
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    Default Re: The Limet story

    Nicely done!
    I'll take a dozen or so to try them out,I've yet to find one that satisfied me aesthetically.
    This one might do the trick.
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    Default Re: The Limet story

    split ci?
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    Default Re: The Limet story

    I dig the filler pre-load.

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    Default Re: The Limet story

    Beautiful! when will I be able to latch on to some?

    As an aside, it's a pleasure to watch the framebuilding bar inch ever higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellman View Post
    Beautiful! when will I be able to latch on to some?

    As an aside, it's a pleasure to watch the framebuilding bar inch ever higher.
    Give it about 7 -8 weeks till the first pile of production cast Limpets arrive.
    Cheers Dazza
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    Default Re: The Limet story

    Slightly lower/closer to the tube would have been my choice. I like em though, I might fancy drilling them out to run full housing for disc brakes as is the norm here for me. I love the care you have put into the design for cable stops . I have made quite a few by hand.

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    Default Re: The Limet story

    I'm loving the preloaded filler!
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    Default Re: The Limet story

    nice!

    a handful of you guys seem to bringing most of the new stuff to market.

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    Default Re: The Limpet story

    Sweet! So many well thought out details for such a small but important piece. Perhaps a Triplet Limpet someday?

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    Default Re: The Limpet story

    bravo, can't wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vulture View Post
    Slightly lower/closer to the tube would have been my choice. I like em though, I might fancy drilling them out to run full housing for disc brakes as is the norm here for me. I love the care you have put into the design for cable stops . I have made quite a few by hand.
    yeah, I hear you
    But one has to have material above the braze slot so it can be cast.
    or it was good bye slot
    but I love the slot and method
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    Default Re: The Limpet story

    Lovely

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    Default Re: The Limpet story

    So I just had an a-ha moment. e-RICHIE's FD braze-on has a slot like that. It went right over my head until now.

    Nice work, Dazza! What's the ETA on the new lugs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zank View Post
    So I just had an a-ha moment. e-RICHIE's FD braze-on has a slot like that. It went right over my head until now.
    I love aha! moments. Something I've been doing for decades and then I read or see something on the internet that changes the way I look at it.
    Quote Originally Posted by zank View Post
    Nice work, Dazza! What's the ETA on the new lugs?
    good question, I have a customer that would like them

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    Quote Originally Posted by zank View Post
    So I just had an a-ha moment. e-RICHIE's FD braze-on has a slot like that. It went right over my head until now.

    Nice work, Dazza! What's the ETA on the new lugs?
    if the stars and planets align then
    The Cadenzia lugs {XL level top tube}
    and
    the Custodian lug sets {OS level top tube}
    and
    the Limpets
    and
    the 72 degree rear dropouts

    will be available some time around the first two weeks in June

    Richie's FD braze on is tops, I use it on all my builds.
    Cheers Dazza
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    Default Re: The Limpet story

    look pretty damn cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    nice!

    a handful of you guys seem to bringing most of the new stuff to market.

    I am working on an essay about this
    and it will have TFC input

    it will be about why and how
    and needs
    and one's expression
    and the getting on with doing substantial stuff
    Cheers Dazza
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    Nice looking doover, Dazza.
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