Rohloff and S&S couplers cable routing quandry

[shand]

Hi all,

Although I built both Rohloff bikes and S&S bikes I've never built a combination. The Rohloffs have always had full outers and the S&S frames have had cable splitters.

I'm not sure what to do with this one? Any ideas?

Cheers

Steven

[marten]

Hi all,

Although I built both Rohloff bikes and S&S bikes I've never built a combination. The Rohloffs have always had full outers and the S&S frames have had cable splitters.

I'm not sure what to do with this one? Any ideas?

Cheers

Steven

First it depends on the Rohloff you are using, with an EX you have a different cablerun than with the standard.

With the standard version you only need two open ended split stoppers which will take the cable adjusters (with nuts) on say the seatstay and you can leave the cables with the front section of the frame

If you use an EX version you could use some open hook cable thingies to secure the cables to the stays. And doesn't somebody offer snapclips to use with hydraulic mounts instead of cableties. Another option is to use split cable stops and short pieces of outer cable, just leaving the inner sheath continuous.

[hampco]

i would say no to that customer so fast it would make your head spin

but that's just me

[crumpton]

at least now you know Mythos is nasty.

Hi all,

Although I built both Rohloff bikes and S&S bikes I've never built a combination. The Rohloffs have always had full outers and the S&S frames have had cable splitters.

I'm not sure what to do with this one? Any ideas?

Cheers

Steven

[Rody]

Steven,

I build my fare share of Rohloff SS bikes each year and have designed a system that works very well in three critical areas;

- Routing and securing the cables cleanly and efficiently
- Allowing for ease of cable realease for packing and transport
- Simple yet durable fabrication

I design the frame with threaded inserts that will accept a 5mm bolt, spacing three across the down tube and two on the inside of the left chainstay. I then machine aluminum plates that are milled to accept the cable housing and recess the insert so the plate sits flush with the tube. The chain stay has two machined plates that extend below the tube and have two holes that allow for a small zip tie to wrap and secure the cables in place.

Set up requires simply loosening the down tube plates, inserting the cables and tightening down. Two quick zip ties secure the chainstay run.

When breaking down the frame for packing, unscrew the external shifter box, cut the two zip ties, and loosen the plates. The frame and cable can then be separated and packed. Easy peasy pumpkin squeezy.

I've attached a pic, if you would like to see more just let me know,

cheers,

rody

PS...thanks Richard for helping me with posting priveleges

[anthonymaietta]

Sick paint.

[shand]

i would say no to that customer so fast it would make your head spin

but that's just me

why? seems like a perfectly sensible request.

but that's just me :-)

[shand]

at least now you know Mythos is nasty.

I've tasted much worse believe me! I did find some nice Ionian Pale Ale though.

[shand]

Rody:

cheers, we're going for the external cable box and I like your solution. Probably go with something like that. Do you make those cable guides in a batch? I do all my milling on my lathe so I guess I'll get creative.

Thanks for all the help.

Steven

[Rody]

Steven,

If you are asking if I have some to send to you, I think we can work something out.

Drop me an email with your info and timeline for the build...

rody@groovycycleworks.com

cheers,

rody

[Eric Estlund]

Those blocks look great. A slightly less machine intensive alternative to the bolt on guide are small electronics p-clamps. I have not used them on a Rohloff bike, but have had great luck using them for single/ multi speed set ups that require "variable" cable options.

[marten]

Those blocks look great. A slightly less machine intensive alternative to the bolt on guide are small electronics p-clamps. I have not used them on a Rohloff bike, but have had great luck using them for single/ multi speed set ups that require "variable" cable options.

On the subject of variable cable options: I spotted these in the columbus stand at Eurobike

[Clockwork]

I'm looking at the same problem and saw these on Ceeway. Albeit 6 years too late for Steven.

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[shand]

I'm looking at the same problem and saw these on Ceeway. Albeit 6 years too late for Steven.

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And to complete the circle, these are guides that I source from Taiwan and sell to Peter!

[steve garro]

And to complete the circle, these are guides that I source from Taiwan and sell to Peter!

And your fork blades kick ass!


- Garro.

[Eric Estlund]

I'll also update that I have used the P-clamp solution on a Rohloff now. Worked like a champ.

[Clockwork]

I was looking at these as well.

McMaster-Carr

Might be a better solution for the CS.

[Eric Estlund]

I use the nylon ones, but the same idea. The nylon doesn't cut into the housing or the paint.