First, that did not happen.
Second, have you considered leaving the Berkeley bubble and seeing how the rest of America lives?
First, that did not happen.
Second, have you considered leaving the Berkeley bubble and seeing how the rest of America lives?
As someone who lives just on the boundary of the Berkeley bubble (literally on the county line between Berkeley and NorCal version of the OC,) I can tell you that Berkeley is a myth.
It's as white as any other American suburb, only with a "BLACK LIVE MATTERS" graffiti. But if you have almost no Blacks, and effectively drive out the rest of them, does it matter what you stencil your roads with?
Robert Reich makes nice YouTube videos, than goes against building a fourplexes and duplexes in his street, because if there's one group everyone in America really hates is the poor.
i dont vote for people, its not a popularity contest, its not "americas next top model". you are looking at this wrong, but it ok, thats what they want you to do, not pay attention to policy, and instead get caught up in nonsense.
i vote on policy, not tribalism and ego. and one team has a vastly superior environmental and social policy, so that makes voting for the humans representing that policy quite easy considering the other side doesnt know what the environment even is...
have a nice day
Matt Zilliox
more ignorance? wow, you are on a roll today. do tell, how does the rest of America live? i didnt know there was one way, i thought there were many. this tribalism crap is dull man. these blanket statements are naive. I know 14 people in Kansas, 12 of them "vote Berkeley"
Matt Zilliox
Had the same conversation with my pops recently.. He starts railing about how the government gets to go to the gym but not the public, and how that shows that the democrats are corrupt and can't be trusted, and I'm like....really? with everything going on, what matters is some silly human mistakes about access to stairmasters?
This election is about taking a stand for human decency, progress, and a future worth living. All the rest is a carefully crafted circus sideshow meant to keep the most ignorant in our society voting against their self-interest in favor of supporting oligarchs and fundamentalist nutcases.
Also, Matt, great to hear from you - my fingers have been crossed that you are making it through this okay..
Dan in Oregon
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The wheel is round. The hill lasts as long as it lasts. That's a fact. Everything else is pure theory.
ah the distinction without a difference effort. So, Trump may have not literally said "nazis are fine people", but he DID say there were fine people on the side that was populated with neo-nazis and white supremacists. That on its face is ridiculous and abhorrent. No one remains at a demonstration with nazi symbols and racist chants by accident. They are not fine. I just can't endorse someone who has those views.
When the GOP fields a candidate that isn't blatantly misogynistic, racist, and elitist in his private words, and his private and public ACTIONS, versus the BS talking-heads marketing and scripted sound bites, then I'll consider voting GOP again.
There's lots of stuff in here that makes zero sense. I'll only tackle the "covid responses". There are close to 200,000 of your people dead. Think about that number. A modern western nation has suffered almost 200,000 deaths. The highest of any country in the world. And what did Trump do? He called it out as a hoax. He said it would one day disappear. He suggested drinking bleach. He bragged about how well the US was doing. His leadership has been so hopelessly moronic and stupid on this issue that it beggars belief that anyone with a brain would even think about voting for him.
I'll say it again. 200,000 dead. That's 66 times the number who died in September 11. The response to that action was swift and while there is a lot of debate about the means and methods involved, $5 trillion was spent following three thousand people being killed by terrorists in two planes. Yet in response to a pandemic the moron in chief suggests drinking bleach.
Grew up in a rural North Carolina county that voted 80% for Trump in 2016. The casual cruelty so many of them support in their politics is often vastly at odds with how I see them treat their friends and neighbors. Small town America is pretty great, but too often votes against its own economic interest through race baiting and culture war bug fuckery. Neoliberalism has not done them any favors the last 30 or so years so I get why they're loathe to vote for the Democrat, but the current President's cult of personality is an attraction I'll never fully grok.
He called Neo Nazis marching to defend Confederate statues very fine people. The very same people who the night before Heather Heyer was vehicularly homcided by same white supremacists were marching in the streets with torches shouting that "The Jews will not replace us."
And again, these were people marching in defense of a statue dedicated to a General who fought to defend chattel slavery.
So yeah, he said it. It's on tape. Neo Nazis and white supremacists are not "very fine people."
I agree with most of this, except for the “hopelessly moronic and stupid” bit. Pre-Woodward revelations, I would have agreed. Post-Woodward, it’s clear that this was intentional. If the piece of shit was CEO of a US company and this happened on his watch, he’d be sued for civil negligence and prosecuted for criminal negligence, possibly even homicide. As it stands, he is immune from prosecution for this (even when / if he is no longer in office). Ain’t America great?
The WWII level of deaths I believe come from this:
https://covid19.healthdata.org/unite...aths&tab=trend
Of course it's a "model" with lots of variables.
And we all know what the pervert thinks of models.
Pence looks so forlorn, probably knowing he'll be getting a talking to from Mother.
And the rubes will say, "that never happened", he didn't say that, he was being sarcastic."
Dan in Oregon
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The wheel is round. The hill lasts as long as it lasts. That's a fact. Everything else is pure theory.
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