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    Default We have officially become inured to mass shootings.

    That there is not a discussion about the recent mass shootings on this list, as it is populated by articulate folks who are concerned with such things, tells me that as a society we have become inured. I guess that doing nothing after the massacre of children in Sandy Hook should have made that clear. And this isn't my invitation for such discussion, I know what I'd do if I were running things, but merely that the lack of it suggests something terrible about our national psyche and our evolving, new normal.

    Hopefully I'll be proven wrong by a tidal wave of the electorate but aside from eyewash, hand wringing and maybe the lone, impotent regulation, I don't think so.
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    Default Re: We have officially become inured to mass shootings.

    Thanks for this John. I'm taking quite a few more deep breaths today.

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    If history is a guide... It's going to get worse before it gets better.

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    Default Re: We have officially become inured to mass shootings.

    This is what I wrote on my Facebook page.

    Did you ever wonder if shit was so bad for these shooters that maybe just maybe for once they'd point the weapon at themselves rather than others. Now that would take some balls.
    It's gonna take a monumental Howard Beale moment from all of us with a sense of decency to turn this around. Being incensed is only the start.
    That's where I'm at with this. So many since (and before) Columbine. I'm near desensitized. I've lost my ability to care about the catalyst, or what's inside the shooter's head. After all these executions I'd rather read about these cats aiming at themselves, if I have to read anything at all.
    I've written a lot more. But you get the gist.

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    We have our very own home-grown radicalized terrorists...I don’t see them as any different than the suicide bombers who plague Afghanistan, making the news with their devastating death counts.

    We’re fucked for the next couple decades at least.
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    Well the Republicans in Nebraska are doubling down on it.

    Nebraska GOP Tells State Senator To Leave Party After He Condemns White Supremacy

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    Why are we as a society immune to these horrific events? Repetition, along with a diminished trust in near everything...

    About the same number of people were murdered in Chicago last weekend as Dayton. It would have been higher but the 5 year old boy that got shot in the leg will live. Where is the outrage & calls for action ??

    The repetition, the selective outrage, the placement of a ‘blame’, the empty words, the even more empty calls for ‘action’...........but mostly the fact that no one will care in two weeks and it will be all forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas Tex View Post
    Why are we as a society immune to these horrific events? Repetition, along with a diminished trust in near everything...

    About the same number of people were murdered in Chicago last weekend as Dayton. It would have been higher but the 5 year old boy that got shot in the leg will live. Where is the outrage & calls for action ??

    The repetition, the selective outrage, the placement of a ‘blame’, the empty words, the even more empty calls for ‘action’...........but mostly the fact that no one will care in two weeks and it will be all forgotten.
    Perhaps the rage fatigue at the futility of expecting change while the gun manufacturers and the NRA have the GOP on retainer? This is the only nation on earth where there is nearly unlimited access to firearms, and surprise(!), they are used to kill people every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas Tex View Post
    Why are we as a society immune to these horrific events? Repetition, along with a diminished trust in near everything...

    About the same number of people were murdered in Chicago last weekend as Dayton. It would have been higher but the 5 year old boy that got shot in the leg will live. Where is the outrage & calls for action ??

    The repetition, the selective outrage, the placement of a ‘blame’, the empty words, the even more empty calls for ‘action’...........but mostly the fact that no one will care in two weeks and it will be all forgotten.
    Damned if you do, damned if you don't, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas Tex View Post
    Why are we as a society immune to these horrific events? Repetition, along with a diminished trust in near everything...

    About the same number of people were murdered in Chicago last weekend as Dayton. It would have been higher but the 5 year old boy that got shot in the leg will live. Where is the outrage & calls for action ??

    The repetition, the selective outrage, the placement of a ‘blame’, the empty words, the even more empty calls for ‘action’...........but mostly the fact that no one will care in two weeks and it will be all forgotten.
    This is why I am increasingly reluctant participate in these on-line discussions. If there was ever a case where the "what about X?" argument doesn't apply it's this one. A terrorist shooting randomly into a crowd. A gang member who can't aim killing an innocent. It's the same thing: It is gun violence and we need to keep guns out of the hands of people who will use them to murder. (Or even to kill themselves.)

    Ranting about it on the Internet is useless. Have any of you ever convinced someone to change their mind this way?

    Call your elected officials and, if they don't care to deal with this horror show of indifference, work to replace your elected officials with one who will. Give your time, give your money, give passion.
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    DavidS votes so should we all d@mnit.

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    Default Re: We have officially become inured to mass shootings.

    What's anyone gonna say that hasn't already been said again and again and again?

    DavidS is right. If you want to see change, typing about it on a bike forum is a waste of time - go do something in the real world.
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    Not much to say either except to point out that if these terrorists (which is what they are) weren’t white men there would be much louder calls for action on guns. Talk about privilege.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    Not much to say either except to point out that if these terrorists (which is what they are) weren’t white men there would be much louder calls for action on guns. Talk about privilege.......
    This is simply blatantly false. The FBI statistics don't lie. Here's a little piece. You don't even hear about most of them. And when you do, the press quickly covers up the race of the shooter if it isn't white.
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    Tuesday November 3, 2020 we can do something about this. Be there or accept the status quo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guido View Post
    Tuesday November 3, 2020 we can do something about this. Be there or accept the status quo.
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    i dont own a gun, i make fun of people who do, i take every opportunity to point out how uncivilized humans are who feel the need for a gun. wtf else can i do? who are you vigilantes ready to blast a fool for breaking into your house? what are the odds of this happening? what are you actually doing? what if his gun is bigger and hes faster? why not buy a lotto ticket every day if you feel this way about probability? this country is full of assholes and selfish pricks. we are taught how special and individual we are, so we act accordingly. when the world is yours, why follow the rules?
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    I think its changing. With each new shooting the odds increase that someone knows someone or knows someone who knows someone who got shot. That's the difference between not caring and caring for many people. Most of these people who care more about their guns than other people's lives will change their tune when its someone they know. -Mike G

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