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    What ISIS Really Wants

    Apparently not!
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    Great longform read with no punches pulled. Thanks for sharing.

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    I just read that. Clash of civilizations, for sure.
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    Default Re: So it's jobs they want eh?

    Thanks, good read.

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    Agreed, good read, and makes intuitive sense.

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    Fantastic article.

    In the US, I believe there was an almost reflexive response by some to differentiate the religious doctrine from the violence. This was done in the spirit of tolerance with good intentions.

    It's ironic to me to find good, religion hating atheists instantly become apologists for the world's most intolerant religion as soon as the word 'terrorism' enters the conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davids View Post
    I just read that. Clash of civilizations, for sure.
    Googled the author, and wasn't surprised to find out he's a Deep Springer. If there's a clash to be found, those guys will find it or make it.

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    Personally I thought the Atlantic article was a little weak. Seemed to have conclusions that it set out to illustrate, ignoring other possible or even more credible points of view.

    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2...lam-says-isis/

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    If you are trying to make a point via this link, just let us know what your point is. Thanks.

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    Default Re: So it's jobs they want eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daltex View Post
    If you are trying to make a point via this link, just let us know what your point is. Thanks.
    there seem to be a few points

    all muslims aren't extremists therefore we are NOT at war with Islam and stating it that way only makes ISIS stronger, see the part about how the atlantic article was very popular with ISIS (did i read that?)

    the Iraq war allowed ISIS to step up to the plate and reacting to ISIS with a war is probably not the answer to dealing with ISIS

    articles painting all muslims with the same brush lead to western extremists...
    good ol' texas

    Protesters disrupt rally at Capitol by Muslims, supporters | www.statesman.com

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    also i'm just gonna quite this in here because it is fckn true...

    "The part of ISIS’s rhetorical power that seems more worth pondering is the part that we can do something about. When recruiters for ISIS and Al Qaeda say that the West is fighting a war against Islam, they cite U.S. policies: drone strikes in Muslim countries, the imprisonment of Muslims in Guantánamo, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, perceived U.S. support for Israel’s treatment of Palestinians, and so on. Obviously, we shouldn’t abandon any policy just because our enemies criticize it. But, when the policies help our enemies with recruitment, that should at least be added to the cost-benefit calculus."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookietruck View Post

    articles painting all muslims with the same brush lead to western extremists...
    good ol' texas

    Protesters disrupt rally at Capitol by Muslims, supporters | www.statesman.com
    But it's apparently perfectly ok to paint the entire state of Texas based on15 people holding signs in austin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daltex View Post
    But it's apparently perfectly ok to paint the entire state of Texas based on15 people holding signs in austin.
    texas paints itself, just look who they elect...rick perry, ted cruz, bush, abbot, dan patrick...
    Paxton asks Texas Supreme Court to void gay-marriage license - Houston Chronicle

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