Expect to get COVID19 in the next 365 days
Do not expect to get COVID19 in the next 365 days
Got it
Tested positive for antibodies
Josh Simonds
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Vsalon Fromage De Tête
Zen, you made me spit perfectly good coffee at my screen.
BTW shaved Irish Spring soap is so awful that it is what I use to keep the deer from munching my hostas. Seriously and I glove up...it's that nasty smelling.
Josh Simonds
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Vsalon Fromage De Tête
Bwahaha!
Which explains why Dove disappears in no time compared to a soap of a similar size -- full of air. It would be forgivable if it weren't so smelly. Some brands boast of their products being triple-milled or whatever. Do you know what that means?
That instructables piece is hysterical. The author deserves a knighthood. :)
Every time it happens, I die a little.
That's what I do. It drives the missus bonkers.
Oh, that Irish Spring... completely forgot about it. Why do so many people use that stuff? Until I went to the US for the first time to spend the summer in Philly, I wondered why some Americans I met in Tokyo smelled so strange. That summer, I walked into CVS or whatever and found the source. It's criminal shit.
Chikashi Miyamoto
Early days, hardly conclusive, but not exactly encouraging wrt antibody levels found in recovered Chinese patients, particularly those under the age of 40:
Coronavirus: low antibody levels raise questions about reinfection risk | South China Morning Post
Chikashi Miyamoto
One last soap fashion statement for Chik and I promise I'll return to topic: Cetaphil bar soap. It is the bar of soap you will take to your grave.
Josh Simonds
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The possibility of immunity after recovery is still vague. Somewhere (linked here?) there is an article about 50 patients in China who recovered, tested negative and then later tested positive again and the recurrence (if that’s what it was instead of a bad test/false negative) resulted in one recovered patient dying. It seems like the accuracy of the test for coronavirus is becoming more, not less, important and that accuracy is just not there yet. Could there be incomplete immunity at a stage in recovery where negative tests are possible even though the patient is not truly recovered and is still prone to backsliding into full blown infection?
The answer is they don't know yet.
As for serology test, I am sure these exist, just not reliable enough to be used at scale. UK bought 17.5mm tests from several manufacturers, and they all failed to pass the trials, so all scraped. I think Germany is in same boat. There is a product being marketed, but I know the machine as research only not to be used for diagnostic purposes.... so a stretch.
There is a NJ company owned by Carlyle Group which has a diagnostic test. Instead of a finger prick, it needs a vial of blood.
A lot of smart people looking on this and the financial incentives are super high, so eventually someone will figure it out if not multiple groups.
In the meantime, I think the standard the Koreans use is you need to pass the PCR test twice x days apart.
Chikashi Miyamoto
Here’s the article I mentioned above, except that it was 51 patients and in South Korea, not 50 in China as I wrote originally.
Cured virus patients might have tested positive due to virus reactivation: KCDC | Yonhap News Agency
Some of the associated articles I’ve read suggest that the problem may be the test or the testing. For example, test samples taken from the nose and upper respiratory may test negative when test samples taken from the lower sections of the lungs will still test positive. The worry is also that the virus may linger elsewhere in the body, and that asymptomatic recovered individuals may be susceptible to relapse and/or be carriers for longer after symptoms subside.
Last edited by j44ke; 04-08-2020 at 02:51 PM.
Just found out that our pilates instructor has been diagnosed (but no test because that is still not allowed/available) with probable Covid19 after experiencing symptoms starting 3 days after we last saw him in person (March 12) until now. His symptoms have been mostly gastrointestinal but with addition of persistent headache, low fever, joint ache and eye pain. He is mostly recovered but his doctor (who is also our doctor coincidentally) has put him on a BRAT (bananas, rice, apples and toast) diet to help repair the damage the virus may have done to his GI tract as he is still experiencing difficulties in that regard.
So I guess we dodged a bullet. Or I suppose we could have been asymptomatic and given it to him. Who knows. Just hope he is truly on the mend and this won't turn into something more serious.
Last edited by j44ke; 04-08-2020 at 04:25 PM.
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Leaving one of my hospitals this evening - a brief unexpected shower then this. Might be an omen - I think we've peaked at this campus - resources heavily taxed but under control. Our inner city hospital six miles away is a few days behind and things are escalating rapidly in terms of both volume and severity of illness. The curve will be later and higher there. Hopefully a rainbow there in a couple of days.
Lou D'Amelio
Bucks County PA
I have seen false negative rates of 15% quoted. If that is truly random then if you tested a pool of infected persons twice 2.25% of them would test negative both times (yet still be positive). If there's some systematic cause (like say nasal morphology preventing a good swab sample being taken) it would be higher than 2.25%.
Mark Kelly
@ldamelio PM me. Free NFS for life. *OK nobody tell him that amounts to 1/2 a bottle it's the thought right?
All kidding aside. If you are frontline healthcare or LE PM me, same deal.
This is not a original thought we all want to recognize and elevate your good work.
I've been hearing all sorts of excellent work us regular citizens are doing to help out. You risk your life, a quiet chain is not too much to ask.
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Josh Simonds
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Thanks. Tom Kellogg gave me one bottle with my cross bike, Richard with my road bike, and I bought one from you at Philly bike show. I'm set for life with both bikes and NFS!
Lou D'Amelio
Bucks County PA
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