Nash Cycles - Baltimore Bicycle Works

First off thanks to VS for starting this really interesting dialogue!

I guess metal started calling my name in high school. I went to an Arts Magnet HS
where we had a full blown metal shop, not necessarily the norm for teens my age. MIG
welders, TIG welders, Oxy-Acetylene rigs, angle grinders, plasma cutters, and a giant
heap of donated steel were our course materials. I learned the basics of fabrication, and
it was at this time that I sold my first hunk of steel for the whopping sum of $450 to my
English teacher.

Fast forward to college, Baltimore is my new home and Iʼd brought along a Trek 520
touring bike that had belonged to my uncle and had once braved the hills of Scotland in
the early 80ʼs. Coming from Dallas, Tx where the automobile reigns supreme, where the
operators of said automobiles are possibly armed, and where most cycling is off road or
on dedicated paths, the sheer idea of USING A BIKE INSTEAD OF A CAR was a
foreign concept to put it mildly. I went to class on my bike, I went to work on my bike, I
went to bars on my bike, and I went grocery shopping on my bike. I really canʼt stress
the impact this had on my impressionable young mind; I was hooked and becoming a
bit obsessive. I continued working with metal in college: making displays, casting
aluminum, bronze, iron, and welding things for less welderly classmates. After receiving
my BFA in Sculpture from Maryland Institute College of Art, I was questioning how to
keep using my brain and my hands to create, while also contributing to my community
and making the rent.

Initially my trip to UBI was more of a vacation than a career move. My best girl and I
drove from Baltimore to Portland, stayed with friends, and eventually made our way to
Ashland. While I expected to be comfortable with the processes of frame construction, I
did not anticipate the joy I felt while creating my first frame. The tools were the same but
the aim was different. This object at the end of my labors was practical yet elegant and
beautiful.

One of the clearest moments of that two week period was Ron Sutphin remarking while
watching me braze the DT/HT joint, “You know, you could really do this if you wanted
to.” Iʼm sure he says that to all the girls was what initially went through my head but it
stuck with me on the long drive down California to Texas back up to Maryland. When I
got home I started buying some tools, cutting up scrap frames for tubing, toiling away
with practice joints, and building frames for friends in the basement.
Today Iʼm one collective owner of Baltimore Bicycle Works, a worker-owned retail repair
shop that houses our custom brand Nash Cycles and will soon house our production
line of hand-made bicycles. At the moment, 70% of my time is dedicated to shop duties,
helping customers, doing repairs, ordering/admin stuff, and the rest at the bench. As the
shop and our collective grows I hope to flip that ratio around and get more workers
building bikes. Our goal is to promote goods made locally and conscientiously by
making our bikes with the utmost care and attention to detail.

At 24 years old, I realize my place on the giantʼs shoulder, and itʼs an honor to be able
to share my experience albeit a brief one. Thanks for reading and Iʼm glad to answer
any questions.

Tommy,
Thanks for posting. What are your favorite styles of frames to build? Which plays a bigger role in what you build, your art background or your history commuting?

Jonathan

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Tommy,
Thanks for posting. What are your favorite styles of frames to build? Which plays a bigger role in what you build, your art background or your history commuting?

Jonathan

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Honestly I don't think I have a favorite style yet, I'm still learning what floats and sinks my boat. So far most of the frames I've made have been lugged, lot's of Single Speeds/Track Bikes. I'm halfway through a fillet brazed MTB for myself and it's been really fun and rewarding so far. The bike I'm working on now is a bi-laminate frame which presents it's own challenges and rewards.

I think it's interesting how the Signal cats, Craig, and myself all have some "fine art (?)" connection. To me art has always been about three things: problem solving, thinking critically, and satisfying my need to physically create. I'll not project that onto the others, but I think building bicycle frames fits nicely in all of those categories and is probably why that first frame felt so good. I think being a commuter was just the starting point of my familiarity with the bicycle as a vehicle and how it should perform and feel. I don't know if it directly effects the frames... until we roll out the lugged commuting frame.:bigsmile:

Do you think about how your life experience and motivation can be used to promote cycling? That's a large blank slate however I do not wish to corner you!!! Hey, you've been to the block and know where John Waters gets his inspiration. Now what will come from Baltimore with the T.Nash brand? Curious how this stew of cultures and experiences will develop.

Bravo sir.

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Do you think about how your life experience and motivation can be used to promote cycling? That's a large blank slate however I do not wish to corner you!!! Hey, you've been to the block and know where John Waters gets his inspiration. Now what will come from Baltimore with the T.Nash brand? Curious how this stew of cultures and experiences will develop.

Bravo sir.

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Thanks TT! Have you visited our little shop yet?

My cohorts and I definitely try and promote the bicycle as the modus operandi for Baltimore, and the daily riders in the area get our shop and what we do. Josh is leading a Baltimore Labor History Tour via bicycle on May Day, anyone close should check it out.

A bike that captures the grit and the grandeur that is Bmore would make for quite the project... I have to give that one more thought. Where's Tom P.?

We all know, or have some idea what makes your work similar to other made to measure/custom frames/bicycles, ie. Quality materials, tester joinery methods, attention to detail, and the delicate balance of producing a frame that is both esthetically pleasing and functional, but what makes your bike different?

I think that it goes without saying that each of the builders in the “smoked out” thread create superior work, so without comparing yourself directly to another builder(s), what is it about your frames/bicycles that draws (or will draw) in clients?

Thanks
Andy

Tommy,

Do you feel that bike commuting is on the rise in B'more aside from the fixie scene? Have you noticed a trend in the larger Baltimore bike community of growing interest in locally built bicycles? I'm aware of Nash, Palermo and Bishop, all in the area...do you see them as competitors, resources, collaborators?

tommy,

your bikes painted by ----

do you see your customer base leaning toward the "big name manufacturer" pro/team type bikes, hyped by marketing or---
do / will they preceive you as the "knowledge tree" --- "having been there done that" for stepping up to a handmade custom bike....

ronnie

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Originally Posted by dcpdpayne

We all know, or have some idea what makes your work is similar to other made to measure/custom frames/bicycles, ie. Quality materials, tester joinery methods, attention to detail, and the delicate balance of producing a frame that is both esthetically pleasing and functional, but what makes your bike different?

I think that it goes without saying that each of the builders in the “smoked out” thread create superior work, so without comparing yourself directly to another builder(s), what is it about your frames/bicycles that draws (or will draw) in clients?

Thanks
Andy

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Great question.

I think when some one is in the market for a custom build they are looking for all of those things that you listed, but many times they're looking to connect with the builder. The human relationship between the manufacturer and the customer is a craving for some, this is just one outlet. What makes my frame different from the next? It's hard to answer that question without sounding markety... I guess one cool thing is that even though my name is on the tubes, the frames are products of their environments. Meaning that I'm always calling on my fellow workers for their thoughts and opinions here at the shop.

I think in the end it's hard to say, "My bikes are different/better/more laterally stiff and vertically compliant than X's" because in this trade it seems like most cats spend their time at the bench making their best possible bike every time. To me this make us all infinitely different and similar.

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Tommy,

Do you feel that bike commuting is on the rise in B'more aside from the fixie scene? Have you noticed a trend in the larger Baltimore bike community of growing interest in locally built bicycles? I'm aware of Nash, Palermo and Bishop, all in the area...do you see them as competitors, resources, collaborators?

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Definitely! I've noticed a significant increase in commuting in my short 6 years here, and it's definitely a very large segment of our business (as is the fixie scene). People always get excited when we tell them we build our own frames too! Though not often excited enough to put down a deposit.:cheesy:

Last year during Art Scape, BBW hosted a four man framebuilding show featuring myself, Tom Palermo, Chris Bishop, and John Hollands, hopefully it will happen again this year. They are all great guys and there's the sense that the shop door is always open. Of course we're all competing in a small market in a smallish town, but I've got their backs and I feel like they have mine. It's nice to know if I bugger up a dropout, good chance one of the fellas has a spare.

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Originally Posted by ron l edmiston

tommy,

your bikes painted by ----

do you see your customer base leaning toward the "big name manufacturer" pro/team type bikes, hyped by marketing or---
do / will they preceive you as the "knowledge tree" --- "having been there done that" for stepping up to a handmade custom bike....

ronnie

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Circle A Cycles ferkin' rules at some paintin'.

People get custom frames for so many reasons whether it's recreating a lost favorite frame, being 6' 8" and not having many choices out there, or just looking for something unique and having that personal dialogue with the builder. I hope by offering both full custom bicycles and semi-production locally made bicycles, our shop can offer different options for different riders.

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Originally Posted by Tommy Nash

Definitely! I've noticed a significant increase in commuting in my short 6 years here, and it's definitely a very large segment of our business (as is the fixie scene). People always get excited when we tell them we build our own frames too! Though not often excited enough to put down a deposit.:cheesy:

Last year during Art Scape, BBW hosted a four man framebuilding show featuring myself, Tom Palermo, Chris Bishop, and John Hollands, hopefully it will happen again this year. They are all great guys and there's the sense that the shop door is always open. Of course we're all competing in a small market in a smallish town, but I've got their backs and I feel like they have mine. It's nice to know if I bugger up a dropout, good chance one of the fellas has a spare.

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I didn't know John Hollands was still building. That's good to know. He was a friend of the shop when I worked at Catonsville Bike Shop. Paul probably still has a polaroid of a bike John built for Gheorghe Muresan. That was pretty freaky.

I'll be in the area in June...and will be inviting myself over to check out the shop and say hi.:cool:

Let's see if this is on topic.
The Tommy I know is dedicated and hard working.
He supports his friends and is the best friend anyone could have.
Tireless hours and shakes off the toil of the day with no loss of focus.
Tommy is a true person of trust.

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Originally Posted by VertigoCycles

I didn't know John Hollands was still building. That's good to know. He was a friend of the shop when I worked at Catonsville Bike Shop. Paul probably still has a polaroid of a bike John built for Gheorghe Muresan. That was pretty freaky.

I'll be in the area in June...and will be inviting myself over to check out the shop and say hi.:cool:

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He just got back in the game after a hiatus. He brought photos of Muresan, himself, and the frame, freaky indeed.

My door's always open...

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Originally Posted by Freddy

Let's see if this is on topic.
The Tommy I know is dedicated and hard working.
He supports his friends and is the best friend anyone could have.
Tireless hours and shakes off the toil of the day with no loss of focus.
Tommy is a true person of trust.

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Thanks for the kind words Freddy... I try.

tommy
yr also a repair shop.
what % of biz is repair vs frame building?

Tommy, serious question. Soft burrito or taco shell?

HEY!!! Talk more about your craft. I'm dying to hear some about the high and lowlights if you are willing. Speaking for myself I've learned one he!!! of alot more from being taught / shown than failing miserably on my own before mastering various skills. What about you?

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tommy
yr also a repair shop.
what % of biz is repair vs frame building?

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Steve,

The retail/repair side of our business is the money maker for sure. As I said I spend about 70% of my time helping customers and doing repairs. We've had a few more full timers come on board so the percentages are starting to slide in the right direction. It is a real challenge though maintaining that balance. I think mainly because the floods and droughts nature of the shop. Nothing is more frustrating than fluxing up a joint, turning on the torch, and then having the sales floor get super busy. I think getting that front triangle mitered (as seen in FNL) was one of my more productive "non frame-only" days.

It was my intention from the beginning to start slow and work up to going full time building frames. Being part of the shop has made it possible to keep that slow pace, but still make money and be a profitable portion of our business. That being said we make way more money every selling hybrids than we do with frame work, but we still make money.

I hope that answers the question...

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Originally Posted by Too Tall

Tommy, serious question. Soft burrito or taco shell?

HEY!!! Talk more about your craft. I'm dying to hear some about the high and lowlights if you are willing. Speaking for myself I've learned one he!!! of alot more from being taught / shown than failing miserably on my own before mastering various skills. What about you?

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Can't it be both? But for serious I do prefer a small corn tortilla, preferably hecho a mano con lard.

For me the craft is full of highs and lows at this stage, it can be quite manic at times. The first time a wheel slid right into the drops with no coldsetting, man I think I got chills. Realizing I drew my full scale drawing based on the wrong HT angle after completing the front triangle, I think I yelled and threw something. But each time the process gets easier, more of those "aha moments" we keep hearing about happen, and I get faster.

One thing that college taught me was to not be overly precious with my work, which carries over nicely to framebuilding. I.E. if you mess something up, doesn't matter if you spent all day doing it, doesn't matter if you have to wait a week for another part now, you just toss it in the bin and chalk it up to experience. For some it's hard to do, but in the end you get more bench time and the product will be better. Period.

On the taught vs. self taught thing. Personally I like watching something happen real time in front of me when I'm learning. But you also have to work it to your advantage, asking your instructor questions, making them watch you try is all part of it. That being said you will teach yourself more about your working methods by plain old toil, to steal Dazza's phraseology.

I'm going back to UBI this winter with another worker from the shop to take the Ti course. There's no reason we couldn't learn to work Ti here, we have the technology, but hey why not learn it from Jim Kish or Mike DeSalvo in top notch facilities if we can? Plus we can write it off on our taxes as job training. Win win imho.

Cheers,

tks
ps
i like the may 1 workers day event.

yr operation reminds me a little of the broadway bicycle school in cambridge...which has been there a loooong time and has some great enthusiasts in the shop.

hope the season goes great... and all yr rear triangles come out " on the money.."

yo tommy atmo i am late to your thread and assume this wasn't covered -

how far back in time do you travel when looking for muses? at your young age you obviously missed the eras
when framebuilding, as a niche, was at the top of the industry food chain. that all changed by the mid 80s
atmo. so, when you look around, or even look at your own work, both real as well as what's dreamed about,
which marques resonate? and what details? do you channel anyone?

Tommy,

What's been the hardest thing for you to wrap your head around? Customers, tubing choices, what tools to get, what tools to not worry about, brass or silver? Boxers or briefs?

Conor

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yo tommy atmo i am late to your thread and assume this wasn't covered -

how far back in time do you travel when looking for muses? at your young age you obviously missed the eras
when framebuilding, as a niche, was at the top of the industry food chain. that all changed by the mid 80s
atmo. so, when you look around, or even look at your own work, both real as well as what's dreamed about,
which marques resonate? and what details? do you channel anyone?

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This might get long...

It's kinda interesting because my knowledge of this particular history (framebuilding) is incomplete at best, which allows me to look at certain aspects with fresh eyes. I remember carving up a set of lugs and realizing after it came back from paint that they quite strikingly resembled a Prugnat set. I was certainly trying to emulate a "classic style" but unknowingly quoted a classic standard. There's a bike collector down here named Sam Fitzsimmons who has quite the stable of classic track bikes and I love pouring over the details of the Frejus', the old Paramounts, and all of the other gems he will have at any given time... I think it was a Singer last time.

I'm inspired by builders like J.P. Weigle who have such a mastery of their own language that it's a joy to look at the raw and polished and see the same confidence and attention to detail in both. I'm also inspired by places like Indy Fab, Moots, and Brew in terms of productivity and the fact that we can bring production back to America if we can get the public behind it.

At first I was drawn in by fancy lugs and crazy asymmetrical designs; form over function. Now I'm more interested in builds where the painstakingly well thought out details blend so seamlessly that it could almost go overlooked... but doesn't.

so rawesome right now atmo -

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At first I was drawn in by fancy lugs and crazy asymmetrical designs; form over function. Now I'm more interested in builds where the painstakingly well thought out details blend so seamlessly that it could almost go overlooked... but doesn't.

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Tommy,

What's been the hardest thing for you to wrap your head around? Customers, tubing choices, what tools to get, what tools to not worry about, brass or silver? Boxers or briefs?

Conor

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On the business side of things it's customers, and not really the customers themselves, but how to handle things like wait times, when to steer them away from something, when to flat out say no, and just how to communicate more effectively.

On the building side of things it's constantly doing something new. On one hand it's exciting to try new lugs and different techniques etc. but it definitely adds to the total time it takes to finish a project or at the least requires some pre-build R&D. I think I understand why so many pros have a product they use in almost every build or at least a small amount of options. Or why you see many builders choose a construction method and stick to it. The way I see it this creates a more consistent end result and a more predictable process.

Cheers,

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Originally Posted by Tommy Nash

On the business side of things it's customers, and not really the customers themselves, but how to handle things like wait times, when to steer them away from something, when to flat out say no, and just how to communicate more effectively.

On the building side of things it's constantly doing something new. On one hand it's exciting to try new lugs and different techniques etc. but it definitely adds to the total time it takes to finish a project or at the least requires some pre-build R&D. I think I understand why so many pros have a product they use in almost every build or at least a small amount of options. Or why you see many builders choose a construction method and stick to it. The way I see it this creates a more consistent end result and a more predictable process.

Cheers,

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I know exactly where you're coming from on that!

Conor

yo tommy atmo -

it's been a while since we heard from you.
so, what are you working on, and more importantly, how has being Smoked Out changed your life?

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yo tommy atmo -

it's been a while since we heard from you.
so, what are you working on, and more importantly, how has being Smoked Out changed your life?

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Whew, who knew summer would be a busy time for a bike shop?!

I've been busy putting together material for Artscape here in Bmore (July 16 - 18) where we will be displaying work by local bicycle builders, being myself, Tom Palermo, Chris Bishop, and John Hollands. It was a big hit last year, lots of fun, and this year will be even better. Anyone in the area should swing by!

We're also in the midst of expansion. Recently we started renting the garage space connected to our retail floor, and are in the process of turning it into a fit studio / higher end product showcase on one side and the frame shop on the other. The idea being you can come in, get fitted for a bike and see frames being produced all in the same space. There will be a nice juxtaposition between a clean fully built out finished space, and the gritty industrial feel of a machine shop. See my FNL post for the beginnings...

Then there's designing my Ti Commuter/Light Tourer for December, and planning out the production line...I can elaborate if folks are interested...

And at the top of this Totem Pole it's helping our customers and their bikes and building the frames in queue.

For me the Smoked Out section of VS is a great way to "meet" my peers and hopefully share my thoughts and experiences in a way that doesn't seem overly self indulgent. I wanted from the beginning to stay away from straight up marketing on this forum including Smoked Out because I want the dialogue to be as relaxed and real as possible. It's a place for me to say, "Starting and owning a small business is the hardest and most rewarding experience of my life." and hopefully it helps somebody out there reading. I know reading through everyone's threads has given me insight into the diverse world of our industry which is truly inspiring, and I plan on updating my thread as things progress in our shop. So stay tuned!

Cheers,

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Then there's designing my Ti Commuter/Light Tourer for December, and planning out the production line...I can elaborate if folks are interested...

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By all means, please do. I'll be looking for just such a beastie in 2012 or so.

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By all means, please do. I'll be looking for just such a beastie in 2012 or so.

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Hi Bruce,

On production: In an effort to provide a range of made-in-house frame sets we have decided to develop products that have much less customizable options and features. Some will have stock sizes/colors/build kits/etc., some will have custom geo but limited other options, and of course we'll still have the full custom Nash brand. Our goal is to have models in every riding discipline and style but that's very much big picture.

On the Ti Commuter/Tourer: My fellow worker Laura and I will be making prototypes for this style of bike at UBI this December. Whether or not they will initially be offered in Ti is going to depend a lot on the tool budget after we get back but stainless steel might be a good compromise in the mean time. We'll be blogging on our site and I'll be updating this thread as things unfold, so stay tuned... feel free to email me with any more specific questions. nashcycles(at)gmail.com

Cheers,

Tommy,

Congrats!

Goods and Services - Best Of Baltimore - Baltimore City Paper

Best Bike Shop
Baltimore Bicycle Works
1813 Falls Road, (410) 605-0705, baltimorebicycleworks.com
Yes, Baltimore Bicycle Works again. And it’s not that new shops haven’t opened and they aren’t great: Hampden’s Twenty20 and Joe’s new Fells Point location are both excellent, welcome, and needed. Still, there’s something special about BBW (har), and it has to do with how the shop, now over a year old and currently expanding, seems like a perfectly organic, natural outgrowth of Baltimore’s tough-as-nails bike community. In other words, it’s a handful of local cyclists/mechanics that saw an opening and need, formed a collective, and opened a shop. That aside, BBW’s still perfectly located and reasonably priced, and maintains as a solid place to get both a fancy new carbon fiber something-or-other and a bargain used kick-around city bike.

Tom I came here to post this! Thanks brother, it's definitely encouraging. It was especially nice to win both the "Reader's Choice" and the "Editor's Choice" really warms the heart.

More updates to follow I promise...

yeah, I saw Laura and Lindsey at the BOB party. Laura told me about the Reader's Choice part. Very cool. You guys deserve it. You've put in a lot of hard work.

Because Baltimore Bicycle Works is in the title, I'd like to share a cool project that just came through the shop. A customer brought in a Hollands road bike that had been somewhat neglected and was in need of a repaint. We suggested Circle A Cycles and acted as the go between, striping the bike down to frame, holding on to the parts, shipping the frame, and building it up once the paint was done.

After stripping the paint off the workers at CAC found major corrosion issues in the top tube, which they expertly replaced. The paint scheme was derived from a number of Kirk frames, but the red and white accents really match the Hollands decals. Interesting factoid: John told me once that the red white image is the naval flag code for "H".

The frame shows up and the eyes go wide. This frame looks killer. The masking lines are crispy and the lug lining is top notch. The customer then starts looking at the box of original parts and then back at the frame gleaming in the mid day sunlight. "That would look really good with the new Athena group," a little voice mutters and the order is made. QBP shows up and have the pleasure of building up this elegant frame set with this elegant group. Good day to work at a bike shop. Enjoy Steve!

Tommy!

I just wanted to check in and say hello after the PA Bike Expo. It was cool chilling. We'll have to assemble with Chris and Brian next year and tour the town!

Best,
Chris

Changes abound at Baltimore Bicycle Work! We have recently expanded our retail space and moved the frame shop downstairs. Although I'm losing those great big windows the move is allowing us to build two more repair stations, which we desperately need, and to separate the frame work so the two aspects of the business have their own flow.

We also are providing the bicycles for the 4K for Cancer benefit ride this year, which means ordering, storing, and assembling at last count 73 bicycles that will be ridden across the country. Check out the shop's blog for more info...

Tommy! No NAHBS! You were missed buddy. If I don't get arrested driving through Jersey, I'll see you in October!

Yeah wasn't in the cards for us this year. Just let me know when you're coming through brother!

Nice thread. I live outside of Baltimore and nice to see the love.

Cheers,

Paul