I am pretty sure that something could be worked out to have a shipping service send them on from the UK. Or a friendly cyclist ....Quote:
Originally Posted by DOOFUS
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I am pretty sure that something could be worked out to have a shipping service send them on from the UK. Or a friendly cyclist ....Quote:
Originally Posted by DOOFUS
Dear reader please note Mr. Doof's sweat is classified as a hazardous waste. Not your average sweat, but than again neither is he.
Rumor has it that he melted a rock lobster, and those things are designed after salt-water crustaceans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Too Tall
That's the one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Too Tall
hmmmmm, I should change my eMotion belts......Quote:
Originally Posted by EDS
This is a very useful thread.
Same here. Can't adjust the spacing by hand anymore and the powder coating is coming off in big chunks. I should have kept them wiped down better.Quote:
Originally Posted by DOOFUS
I killed some handlebars once. First season of serious winter training. Sweat soaks into bar tape. Water evaporates leaving salt cake. Knew something was up when the bars were getting noticeable thicker. Unwrapped the tape and had a small Morton's factory going on.
Old CycleOps fluid trainer on last legs. Seriously tempted by a LeMond - but in a condo and concerned about the noise. I train in the basement, but don't want to piss off the neighbors. Was thinking about trying to build a muffler box around the fan assembly as I have access to lots of sound deadening foams, tapes, etc at work. Anybody tried this or know someone who has? Just knocking 10dB off the top of the thing may make it work.
Ryan
You're probably better off putting something underneath the trainer that would dampen vibrations.Quote:
Originally Posted by rmplum
I would highly recommend this product: Anti-vibration padsQuote:
Originally Posted by rmplum
I placed one under each leg of a CycleOps Fluid2 and they damp out pretty much all the vibration from about 65 cadence and up. For $7 I think they are worth a try.
Finally broke down and bought some rollers- they arrive tomorrow.
So a couple questions:
Is it better to use a narrow tire on rollers, or is anything fine? Figuring on using my cross bike which currently has 28mm slicks on it.
Then, how high of a tire pressure? I have heard pump them up way high.
thanks,
I've got one of those yellow trainer specific tires hanging in my garage I think. 700x23 or 25. Happy to send it your way.Quote:
Originally Posted by robin3mj
I would think that those yellow trainer tires would be a bad idea for the rollers, because unlike on the trainer, tires on the rollers actively support your weight like they would on the road.
Yeah, I misread rollers vs trainer. Anyway, I have one that I'm not using. Happy to ship it out for someone to try.
Rollers aren't that hard on tires like a trainer. You don't really need trainer tires if you don't already have them. They will just develop a silver sheen to them that comes off once you are back on the road (if your rollers have alloy drums).
On the topic of trainer tires, I currently have one on my bike so I can quickly do some workouts on rollers, and some on the trainer with the same wheels. There is no difference in grip or performance with the trainer tire on rollers.
In terms of pressure, I find rollers way better with high pressures. For me that is at least 110-120 psi on my road clinchers. Low pressures will cause you to bounce around, especially at higher cadence workouts. On my track tubulars I ride them with 140 psi.
No silver streaks if you are riding TruTrainers -- they anodize them so aluminum isn't rubbing off the drums onto your tires.Quote:
Originally Posted by robin3mj
You don't wear most tires out on your rollers -- the only exception I'd make are hand-glued or ultralight tires (my personal problem is with Vittoria Evo Pistas) for which the substantial tread flexion causes the tread sometimes to come loose. Then the rollers strip it off your tire and you're riding on casing. A mess.
If you're riding tubulars, they aren't usually as round as you'd like and you feel every little dip or bump until you really get up to speed. On smaller diameter tubulars, it seems to come up a little more often, partly because they get run (on rollers and on the road) at higher pressures). Anything in a 22-23-25 mm is ideal, but practically anything works fine. If you're riding clinchers, same rules apply. Definitely don't ride any kind of big tread -- the smoother the tread the better. Cross slicks will be noisier and a bit more erratic than actual smooth-treaded tires. One of my favorites for rollers is Conti Supersonics clinchers in a 23 mm -- completely smooth tread, just enough rubber to be pretty durable on rollers, very light, great to put on for a fast clean crit during the season, and not expensive.
As for actual pressures, some people like to ride unduly low pressures for greater resistance, but if you do that you flex the tires a lot more and risk a failure, they can unseat and blow (clinchers), and your bike feels wobbly on the rollers. I usually suggest going 10-20 psi higher than you ride on the road, simply because the roller drum creates more of a deflection in the tire than the road would. I don't see a reason to go higher. When pressure gets high the tire gets skittery on the drums, it's also hard on your butt, and it develops lower and lower resistance. For warming up or staying warmed up at the track with your race wheels on, and riding Evo Pistas pumped to 160 or so, you really spin unless you have a resistance device -- and for the track that's fine. For a workout, just go 10-20 psi higher than what you normally ride and you should be fine. Going 10 psi higher or lower doesn't really hurt anything, so experiment with it to see what feels most comfortable to you for a good workout.
The LeMond unit is pretty badass.
I was told last night by my co-dwellers that the sound at 18-20 mph doesn't really carry up the stairs from the basement. Have it set on foam flooring pads over carpet in the finished space (drywall, etc on slab). Have the fan blowing into the side of a sofa and a few heavy pillows. It's really not that bad. Had music playing in my earbuds at a normal volume and really no issues.
This is a bit ot, but I'm curious about something and thought I would ask here rather than start a new thread: has anyone else felt stronger riding after doing a leg workout?
The reason I ask is that I've noticed a pattern where a couple hours after a heavy leg workout (squats, deadlifts, etc.) my riding feels very strong. Then, the next day, I'm all sore and my legs are crap for riding. I get that part, I'm obviously sore from lifting, but I don't understand why I'm riding better the same day after lifting.
Moreover (and this might sound absurd) I'm wondering if there could be any benefits to a moderate amount of lifting the day of a race?!
Wouldn't surprise me...I'm far from an expert but there seems to be a consensus that doing 2 workouts a day can be beneficial. I would imagine that it's a similar effect to doing a good warmup before a workout.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sizzler
Part of the benefit of a workout is the area under the metabolic curve after the workout is over and you return to baseline. Even with the same mileage split in two, you get that benefit twice.
This phenomenon is validated and actually researched to a fine point. The most basic reason is that you really only are invoking perhaps 30% of the fibers in your muscle. Cycling if anything makes the percentage recruitment even less. But if you do something like lifting that invokes, say, 55% of your fibers, then when you go back to the bike your legs for a brief while are trained to invoke perhaps 35 or 40% recruitment. It doesn't last long and you have partially exhausted the muscles so it doesn't help except brief non-maximal efforts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sizzler
There are other potential issues involved as well, including that you may exhaust your muscle pyrophosphate and over-replenish compared to a rested level, and so on. There may also be involvement of hormonal systems, etc. But rest assured, it's a phenomenon that is definitely happening. You aren't imagining it.