Re: Frame Pumps: The Greatest Ever Made
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Too Tall
Bad news. Since the camel poked his nose under the tent we are now including frame attached (small) pumps that are worth a good g-ddamn.
A client gave me a Lezyne Carbon Road Drive a while ago and frankly it got tossed in the bin of things I give away. Curious, I tried it on a 700X25 tire and it pumped it to 85 psi in 150 strokes with no drama. I'd hate to endorse it BUT....apparently there are a few small pumps worth looking at. IIRC it took < 100 pumps for a Silca XL to get a 700X23 tire to 85'ish psi.
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This is mine. Great for your pocket. A great pump. I have one that I had sanded down and resprayed to match the bare-carbon logo and painted finish on an old Meivici. Didn't keep the bike but kept the pump. I need a couple small Crumpton decals and I'll re-do it to match Nick's bike. Now you're talking.
Re: Frame Pumps: The Greatest Ever Made
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Originally Posted by
Too Tall
Bad news. Since the camel poked his nose under the tent we are now including frame attached (small) pumps that are worth a good g-ddamn.
A client gave me a Lezyne Carbon Road Drive a while ago and frankly it got tossed in the bin of things I give away. Curious, I tried it on a 700X25 tire and it pumped it to 85 psi in 150 strokes with no drama. I'd hate to endorse it BUT....apparently there are a few small pumps worth looking at. IIRC it took < 100 pumps for a Silca XL to get a 700X23 tire to 85'ish psi.
while i agree that i hate to include mini pumps into this discussion, this type do indeed perform just about as well as a frame pump; more strokes, but they always get the job done, up to very high pressure. the basic design is stolen from the zefal solibloc after all, right?
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chiasticon
while i agree that i hate to include mini pumps into this discussion, this type do indeed perform just about as well as a frame pump; more strokes, but they always get the job done, up to very high pressure. the basic design is stolen from the zefal solibloc after all, right?
If you say so. They look pretty similar.
I've got some no-name Zefal pump that looks a lot like that in my bin. It must be 25 years old and works like a champ pumping basketballs.
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TTX1
Anyone tried the Silca CO2 gear?
The new Silca EOLO is awesome. I don't really use CO2 but I have one of these and have used it a few times. It is definitely the best CO2 head I've ever used.
I'm hoping they'll bring to market a killer new frame pump or a really tops mini pump.
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I had a couple of the new Parks and even recommended them here--I loved how they would scale to fit any frame, what a concept. But they didn't last for me. More recently I have also taken off the Lezyne brackets off my bike and just carry them in the pocket. I'm good with this.
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Zefal HP was my go-to defense against chasing dogs.
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pruckelshaus
Zefal HP was my go-to defense against chasing dogs.
finally I see why a frame pump may be useful
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Lionel
finally I see why a frame pump may be useful
Reading this thread almost....almost....had me going to REI to get a frame pump. Then I remembered that my experiences with the Silca and Zefal made me wonder who designed such implements. There's no way to use those pumps on the road without putting some lateral force on the valve as you pump. Sooner or later you're twisting or bending the valve stem. The perfect frame pump would be a scaled up version of the Lezyne Pressure Drive, with a small hose concealed within.
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Bobonli
Reading this thread almost....almost....had me going to REI to get a frame pump. Then I remembered that my experiences with the Silca and Zefal made me wonder who designed such implements. There's no way to use those pumps on the road without putting some lateral force on the valve as you pump. Sooner or later you're twisting or bending the valve stem. The perfect frame pump would be a scaled up version of the Lezyne Pressure Drive, with a small hose concealed within.
My first time overseas, in France in 1988, all I had was a Zéfal. You learn to use them without lateral force. It is possible. It is not hard for me to get 100 psi into my tires with my HPx. I've ridden Ballers 3 times and two of the times the HPx got used and I think the second year it was used several times, by more than one rider. I used it at least twice in Ballers #2.
I now more often use a mini pump because they've gotten so good. My pump of choice when using the mini pump is the Topeak Racerocket HP. It'll do 100 PSI but takes forever. The head is on a hose and screws onto the valve. But I also have some old Barbieri mini pumps and I had no real trouble getting 80-90 psi with those either.
But for certain events there's no substitute for a full size frame pump. When used with the strap there's no rattling. It only gets used a few times a year but those rides are salvaged instead of being ruined.
This is what I carried this morning: spare Hutchinson tubular that's been used and used and used and won't die. Yes it holds air. And a lever and the Topeak.
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Bobonli
There's no way to use those pumps on the road without putting some lateral force on the valve as you pump.
Waay!
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thollandpe
Way.
Do not hold the wheel, hold the pump and support the wheel only by the valve stem. Use your foot, friend, bike, or immovable object to keep the wheel from twisting.
Exactly my point.
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thollandpe
A full-size frame pump makes you as popular as the guy at a nudist colony who can carry the third dozen donuts. Just ask Lumpy.
Thanks. You just ruined donuts and frame pumps for me.
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The key is to hold the wheel at on the handle, wrapping your thumb around the tire when pumping to hold the pump onto the valve. No lateral forces.
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thollandpe
A full-size frame pump makes you as popular as the guy at a nudist colony who can carry the third dozen donuts. Just ask Lumpy.
Once I came onto this site to read about bikes.
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If I can recommend a mini pump, it is the Barbieri CarboOne. Bought this CF mini on a whim about 10 years ago. It will pump over100psi but way over 100 strokes, nice design two finger hold with thumb over tire. Barbieri appear to be promoting the Nana, now, but it does not have the ergonomic hold design of the CarbOne
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Saab2000
The key is to hold the wheel at on the handle, wrapping your thumb around the tire when pumping to hold the pump onto the valve. No lateral forces.
Re: Frame Pumps: The Greatest Ever Made
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Originally Posted by
Too Tall
Bad news. Since the camel poked his nose under the tent we are now including frame attached (small) pumps that are worth a good g-ddamn.
A client gave me a Lezyne Carbon Road Drive a while ago and frankly it got tossed in the bin of things I give away. Curious, I tried it on a 700X25 tire and it pumped it to 85 psi in 150 strokes with no drama. I'd hate to endorse it BUT....apparently there are a few small pumps worth looking at. IIRC it took < 100 pumps for a Silca XL to get a 700X23 tire to 85'ish psi.
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I used to be a zefal HP user and I'm now using these in non carbon version. I've mostly ditched the frame pumps because my bikes doesn't have pegs and I'm using them as commuters too. Frame pumps are nice until you want to shoulder the bike to climb some stairs.
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I just shove mine in the rear triangle. Out of the way, no peg needed and doesn't make a sound.
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11.4
Once I came onto this site to read about bikes.
Your bike rides sound boring.
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Re: Frame Pumps: The Greatest Ever Made
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lumpy
Your bike rides sound boring.
Clearly.
Mostly on the track, going in circles, so when I'm on the road, I guess I just go hog wild and think there's so much to be found in a right turn or a stoplight. Wow! There are obviously those out there who have explored more off the beaten path than I.