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    Default Recomend Oxy Propane Torch Available in UK Anyone?

    I've followed the various oxy propane threads with interest and I'm ready to buy but the various recommended torches, Smith, Victor, Uniweld etc seem hard to find in the UK. Can anyone suggest a supplier of these or an alternative make?

    Spotted this Lightweight Oxy Propane Multi Jet Gas Welding Torch | eBay which looks interesting but no info on manufacturer. Anyone any experience of this type of propane specific tip?

    Thanks,
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    Default Re: Recomend Oxy Propane Torch Available in UK Anyone?

    The Bicycle Academy were messing about with propane - might be worth asking them.

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    Default Re: Recomend Oxy Propane Torch Available in UK Anyone?

    hi william

    i dont know where abouts in the UK you are, but i'm in suffolk :)

    i'm using oxy-propane too because i can't really justify the costs of acetylene cylinder rent, let alone refills !

    my set up is the following

    BOC oxygen cylinder size W (the biggest one)
    CALOR propane cylinder 47kg (also the biggest one)
    murex oxygen regulator 0-4 bar pressure
    murex propane regulator 0-4 bar pressure
    murex flashback arrestors (resettable)
    BOC 6mm hoses (you can get them individually, dont use acetylene hose)
    murex saffire 4 torch (is the same as the large BOC welding shank)
    standard acetylene tips size 2 - 25 (english sizes, not the american sizes)

    yeah sure it can be a pain to light a propane torch, but they're fine once lit,
    i wouldn't worry so much about if it says acetylene on the mixer and tips, i've had mine a couple of years, and it's been great :)

    good luck

    NBC

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    Default Re: Recomend Oxy Propane Torch Available in UK Anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by NBC View Post
    ...standard acetylene tips size 2 - 25 (english sizes, not the american sizes)..NBC
    Hi, thanks for the reply, knew I couldn't be the only Brit reading this forum. I'm up north in Manchester. Don't think I can run to a full set of tips straight off the bat, but I'm guessing there will be one or two that you use most of the time, maybe #3 or #5?

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    Default Re: Recomend Oxy Propane Torch Available in UK Anyone?

    i've got a crap load of spares of the 10mm thread ones, send me a private message

    i tend to use pretty big tips, usually the 7, 10 and 13, propane isn't quite as warm as acetylene, so just use the necessary size

    somewhere i've got a little credit card sized thing from murex that tells you what the hole size is in the tip

    good luck

    NBC

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    Found this video demonstration of the multi jet propane tip. Not the greatest film I know, but can anyone with oxy propane experience deduce anything from it about suitability for lug brazing?
    Thanks,
    William.

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    Default Re: Recomend Oxy Propane Torch Available in UK Anyone?

    i haven't found the need for anything other than a single jet tip,

    dazza from llewellyn bicycles is another user of propane, to my knowledge he only uses rosebud tips for fork crowns

    i think your maybe overthinking this,
    there aren't any differences with the torch body itself, just the mixer part that goes between the torch and tip,
    with regulators set properly, there is no issue in using acetylene mixers / tips

    NBC

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    Default Re: Recomend Oxy Propane Torch Available in UK Anyone?

    The Uniweld 71 handle from amazon in the US is $39 and ships for $6.99 to the UK
    Ameriflame MD71TH 6-Inch Light Duty Welding Handle for General Purpose Heating, Brazing, Welding and Other Flame Processes - Amazon.com
    Get a couple tips, maybe #1 and #2 and you should be set.
    cheers
    andy walker
    Walker Bicycle Company | | Walker Bicycle Company

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    Quote Originally Posted by afwalker View Post
    Unfortunately, you can't purchase tools and hardware (amongst other things) from US Amazon here in the UK.
    I've just tried to buy the Uniweld 71 torch handle from the link you posted and got this message when I tried to checkout:

    'Buyers outside the U.S. cannot purchase the following types of items from sellers: video games, toy and baby items, electronics, cameras and photo items, tools and hardware, kitchenware and housewares, sporting goods and outdoor equipment, software, and computers.'

    Bummer :(

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    Default Re: Recomend Oxy Propane Torch Available in UK Anyone?

    Rats, I did look at the international shipping rates before I posted that and it looked like it would work:(
    What if it's a "gift" from a friend in the US that gets a gift from paypal?
    cheers
    andy walker

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    Quote Originally Posted by afwalker View Post
    Rats, I did look at the international shipping rates before I posted that and it looked like it would work:(
    What if it's a "gift" from a friend in the US that gets a gift from paypal?
    cheers
    andy walker
    I'd be more than willing to give a friend in the US a gift through PayPal if they could make it happen. ;)

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    Default Re: Recomend Oxy Propane Torch Available in UK Anyone?

    William
    While dropping my car off for repair today I happened to walk past a local welding supplies company and noticed a sign outside for Hobby gas. which it says is a rent free, one off deposit contract. They have acetylene cylinders too. Looks like the deposit is 60 to 160 depending on the gas.

    On having a quick look on the site I saw a couple of interesting complete torch sets with a frame building heading.
    https://weldspeed.com/perfectwelding...g=PKGCASETBAOP

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    Default Re: Recomend Oxy Propane Torch Available in UK Anyone?

    hobby gas costs way more even over a short amount of time !

    i think my boc oxygen cylinder rent is about 11 or so a month, and i refill maybe twice a year, so it's not that bad at all,
    calor gas is probably the most logical for propane, 30 quid deposit, no rent, and just pay for refills when you need, just pop along to a stockist and exchange a cylinder
    unless your going to do a huge amount of work, dont get a 47kg cylinder like i did, 3 oxygen bottles later and its still probably half full !

    NBC

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    Default Re: Recomend Oxy Propane Torch Available in UK Anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Chitham View Post
    I've followed the various oxy propane threads with interest and I'm ready to buy but the various recommended torches, Smith, Victor, Uniweld etc seem hard to find in the UK. Can anyone suggest a supplier of these or an alternative make?

    Spotted this Lightweight Oxy Propane Multi Jet Gas Welding Torch | eBay which looks interesting but no info on manufacturer. Anyone any experience of this type of propane specific tip?

    Thanks,
    William.
    One European company that makes torches with propane tips is Swiss Gloor. Though as you may expect Gloor stuff is quite pricey. I have bought Turkish copy of the torch, and propane tips from Gloor.

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    Default Re: Recomend Oxy Propane Torch Available in UK Anyone?

    Hi, I am also looking for a suitable oxy/propane setup, and have my eye on this complete (except bottles) Wescol 65 kit from the UK:
    Oxy/Propane Brazing Equipment Set - Weldequip

    They also sell seperate nozzles in all sizes. Looks good to me, but I am a beginner in this field..

    Cheers from DK :-)

    Edit: The price is right at 163, and it is even UK made they say. What more can u want really

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    Default Re: Recomend Oxy Propane Torch Available in UK Anyone?

    only thing is that the hoses are a little on the large side for the torch, but they're really the smallest common hoses you'll get here

    i've got hoses from boc, but they're all the same thing really

    NBC

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    Default Re: Recomend Oxy Propane Torch Available in UK Anyone?

    I have that kit, bought it about a year ago, and I've just finished my first frame with it.
    I've recently bought a couple of new tips - the no. 13 and the "lightweight heating nozzle" I think these might be a bit better for a quicker heat up of a big shell / lug situation. Overall, no complaints, although I have absolutely nothing else to compare them to, as this is the first torch I've used. Hoses arent exactly light weight and do annoy me a bit when I have to dance around to un-twist them, but thats not a big deal to be honest.

    Weldequip themselves were good to deal with, quick and no hassle.

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    Default Re: Recomend Oxy Propane Torch Available in UK Anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by NBC View Post
    hobby gas costs way more even over a short amount of time !

    i think my boc oxygen cylinder rent is about 11 or so a month, and i refill maybe twice a year, so it's not that bad at all,
    calor gas is probably the most logical for propane, 30 quid deposit, no rent, and just pay for refills when you need, just pop along to a stockist and exchange a cylinder
    unless your going to do a huge amount of work, dont get a 47kg cylinder like i did, 3 oxygen bottles later and its still probably half full !

    NBC
    try talking to energas? anything with BOC on it costs twice as much seriously they just found out about our company and tried to tell us 90 quid for a refill and 45 quid delivery and 45 quid pick up was normal.............what a clown their rep was we dont pay 90 quid rental a year or any delivery charges...im not sure he confused the terms " born yesterday " with we started a new company

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