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    Default XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    Good to go?

    Are they still working out the bugs?

    Pluses / minuses ???

    Do Micro-Spline and Silence actually exist ?

    What are there three chain guide models?

    How about he mono-shifter?

    Tell me what you know.
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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    Itís really good stuff. Itís out there, I think pre orders and oem are in customers hands. The crank is indefinitely postponed, officially, because of production issues from the factory fire they had earlier this year. The scylence system is, unofficially, probably not going to happen. Check with your connections for more info on that. Dt, White, i9 are all setup with microspline drivers and all are available to order today.

    The shifting is much lighter at the lever compared to 9000, which is a huge plus for me with my bad right thumb. Shift quality up and down the cassette is the best Iíve ever felt on a MTB. Shifting under load while standing executes just as beautifully as a shift in the repair stand. The chain guide is ultra clever in its adjustment and itís a great value compared to similar offerings. The 3 versions represent 3 mounting options. The mono shifter I donít know much about but itís for the fd and is a push pull setup. The dropper lever is pretty sweet, operates a fox transfer really nicely and feels identical to the rear shifter.
     

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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    Cranks are indefinitely delayed. Scylence likely isn't coming at all. That's all's I knows.
     

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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Applesauce View Post
    Cranks are indefinitely delayed. Scylence likely isn't coming at all.

    That's all's I knows.
    I had heard similar.

    Quote Originally Posted by watchcwgo View Post
    It’s really good stuff. It’s out there, I think pre orders and oem are in customers hands. The crank is indefinitely postponed, officially, because of production issues from the factory fire they had earlier this year. The scylence system is, unofficially, probably not going to happen. Check with your connections for more info on that. Dt, White, i9 are all setup with microspline drivers and all are available to order today.

    The shifting is much lighter at the lever compared to 9000, which is a huge plus for me with my bad right thumb. Shift quality up and down the cassette is the best I’ve ever felt on a MTB. Shifting under load while standing executes just as beautifully as a shift in the repair stand. The chain guide is ultra clever in its adjustment and it’s a great value compared to similar offerings. The 3 versions represent 3 mounting options. The mono shifter I don’t know much about but it’s for the fd and is a push pull setup. The dropper lever is pretty sweet, operates a fox transfer really nicely and feels identical to the rear shifter.
    Thanks !!!


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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    Rep said January on everything.

    Delay on a couple things held it all up because it's basically useless as individual parts.
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    Not much here to your specific questions as I only have the M9100 RD and shifter on the FS bike. Very pleased with it. It's currently keeping XT brakes, SRAM crank and cassette company. Bit of a 12-speed mashup but it is all running together nicely.
     

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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    From what I know regarding cranks- there will be a non series 12spd crank available before the xtr is available likely closer to summer.

    Santa Cruz is putting e13 cranks on their xtr build bikes. I think wolftooth will have some Shimano endorsed rings available.

    Microspline- there is some more hub companies who have licensed the design, unsure of which brands, Shimano is waiting for them to release info when they are ready.
     

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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    My Shimano Rep said there was a fire at the anodizing plant which I want to say is used for much of the surface finishing of XTR, hence the long delays/setbacks. Also called Shimano corporate and they reiterated what my rep stated. Both said late January 2019 on all OEM Pre-Orders but it's first come first serve. Best to get your order in sooner than later otherwise you're at the bottom of the list pushing you into February or March delivery. I have a drivetrain/brakes on order and have a new rear wheel (I9 Torch Classic + Nox Farlow) built up waiting.

    I have not heard anything regarding Scylence not coming. Every indication I've read and heard said it's coming. (Article via Pinkbike back in August.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by fortyfour View Post

    I have not heard anything regarding Scylence not coming.


    Dear Valued Customers,
    Here is the Shimano newsletter of November 29, 2018 that contains the latest product information that we would like to share with you.
     NEW PRODUCT INFORMATION
    P-1811-012 Additional Product Line-up Information for Model Year 2019 Model
     OTHER INFORMATION
    P-1811-013 P-1811-014
    P-1811-015 P-1811-016
    Update Information for New Product Line-up 2019 SCYLENCE function will be canceled.
    Update Information for Price Review Information for 2019 HB/FH-MT900-B/BS
    Update Information of Initial Delivery for EC-E8004 Preliminary Information of New Product Line-up 2020
    If you have any questions, please feel free to contact our sales representatives.


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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    @Garro: Interesting. Wonder what issues created this one to be canceled.

    Ironically, I personally prefer a loud freehub. The louder the better. Especially during hunting season or on twisty dirt roads / trails that are shared use. People can hear me coming. Same with the wildlife. I can count now two times I've alerted a massive black bear to my presence by letting my I9 freewheel spin. Both times I was within 15' of him before I saw him.

    I do however understand and respect those clients who want a quiet freehub however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fortyfour View Post
    @Garro: Interesting. Wonder what issues created this one to be canceled.

    Ironically, I personally prefer a loud freehub. The louder the better. .
    Ha !!

    I like a nice Buzzzzzzzzz too - I have both a WI freewheel and a set of Hope trials hubs in the shop right now, and man, they purr nice.

    it seems like the silent mech hub is kind of an un-obtanium thing in the bike industry for maybe it's entire history?

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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    Doesnít sound like itís cancelled, rather it wonít be delivered for model year 2019. My understanding is producing the freehub design on a large scale is proving difficult
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew flowers View Post
    Doesn’t sound like it’s cancelled, rather it won’t be delivered for model year 2019. My understanding is producing the freehub design on a large scale is proving difficult
    Would you take a deposit on it ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    Ha !!

    I like a nice Buzzzzzzzzz too - I have both a WI freewheel and a set of Hope trials hubs in the shop right now, and man, they purr nice.

    it seems like the silent mech hub is kind of an un-obtanium thing in the bike industry for maybe it's entire history?

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    My Onyx/Nobl hub is dead silent and I love it!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by big boom View Post
    My Onyx/Nobl hub is dead silent and I love it!
    Yeah. If you can handle the squish in the pedal stroke, those guys have nailed silent. And availability.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    Would you take a deposit on it ??

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    On the hub? Not unless they insisted

    However, Iím not a frame builder planning things 2 years out. From a shop perspective itís too hard not to suggest a dt Swiss/i9/onyx in the interm.

    In my opinion shimano has too much at stake to cancel the hub this late in development. They have working prototypes- Iíve ridden one on a trainer. You canít assign the xtr moniker to a product and not have it be great.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew flowers View Post
    You can’t assign the xtr moniker to a product and not have it be great.
    Ummmmm...970?!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applesauce View Post
    Ummmmm...970?!
    Different I feel. Rapid rise, that weird dual control were all strange attempts at reinventing the wheel.

    New stuff is them legitimately chasing eagle.

    Doesnít help that r9100 is low key kinda whack too
     

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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    The scylence design is really good but there is some weird nuances. Lateral play in the freehub has to be adjusted with shim washers and the tolerances between parts in the hub is insanely tight, any bit of dirt of grease that gets in there would be bad.

    Iím bummed to see it shelved as Shimano hubs are generally (not always, I see you cracked freehubs on xt/slx thru axle hubs) bombproof and the low weight/reasonable price would make them a better deal compared to say 240s, especially factoring in the 36t upgrade on the dt.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew flowers View Post
    Doesn’t help that r9100 is low key kinda whack too
    Not sure what you mean by this? Are you speaking about the aesthetics in general or the actual design of the new M9100? (Or did you actually mean R9100?)

    Quote Originally Posted by watchcwgo View Post
    I’m bummed to see it shelved as Shimano hubs are generally (not always, I see you cracked freehubs on xt/slx thru axle hubs) bombproof and the low weight/reasonable price would make them a better deal compared to say 240s, especially factoring in the 36t upgrade on the dt.
    FYI to all: Just be patient. Shimano will get it right. The design in practice is just proving to have some difficulties. They'll figure it out but it's just going to take some extra time. Rome wasn't built in a day as they say.

    The new XTR M9100 kit overall is pretty amazing. I'm really looking forward to running the drivetrain especially and seeing how the new brakes perform vs the previous generation which I really loved.
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