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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    He should be able to get everything but the crank no?
     

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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    So far no drivetrain parts. It's not clear to me where his shop sits in the queue, or who the order went through, etc.

    The current March delivery his shop was told aligns with the PinkBike piece so that part is consistent.

    Hope the stuff is so nice when it gets here that the delay disappointments are quickly forgotten.

    Meanwhile there is an upside - every ride I tell him: "Dude, this 12 speed sram stuff is butter. You should really get some 12 speed kit"!!
     

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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by burgess1108 View Post
    More like this:

    Shimano: You up? *Sends hot nude selfie*

    Me: Whoa, that's hot. Yup? Netflix and chill?

    Shimano: Yup, be right there.

    Me: OK!

    Shimano: JK LOL. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    That’s funny!
     

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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by andrew flowers View Post
    He should be able to get everything but the crank no?
    That's the kicker, they're holding everything UNTIL the crank situation is figured out.

    As per canceling the Enduro stuff? I've not heard that and those are the brakes on my backorder... What I heard and saw on my own order was they canceled the 11 spd 10-45 cassette option and replaced it with a 12 spd 10-45 cassette option. But the Enduro brakes and short cage rear mech still show as being able to be back ordered on the OE B2B site on my end.

    What sucks is I'm launching a new product and have been waiting to take pictures for the site/release with the new Shimano XTR kit. So I'll have to move ahead with the older M9000 kit present and I have to swap out the HG+ driver for a HG driver with the wheel I built for geared setups. And on top of that... a few weeks after I get my hands on a HG+ driver from I9, they announce the release of Hydra. Oh well.

    It's gotta suck for larger company's who are sitting on a stack of bikes because of this. I build them one at a time but have to figure that out and create a workaround possibly? Ugh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    Would you take a deposit on it ??

    - Garro.
    Now THAT is a question I can answer. No way would I promise to deliver something I didn't know when, if ever I was going to get it.

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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    Apparently things will show up on the b2b in a few weeks?
     

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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    Did the direct mount RD die a silent death?

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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by andrew flowers View Post
    Apparently things will show up on the b2b in a few weeks?
    That's what I'm assuming given that from what I understand, Shimano is holding everything until the cranks arrive and they can provide a complete drivetrain.

    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    Did the direct mount RD die a silent death?

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    I spoke to my rep about this one and apparently, they couldn't get things to work with the direct mount hanger and that 50t cog. It put the rear mech too low to the ground so all mountain 12 speed got rid of direct mount while the current offerings of road with direct mount will keep direct mount. Maybe it will return in the future but don't count on it.

    IMO: Sram's cage lock is genious. That definitely makes rear wheel removal a lot easier. One instance Shimano should adopt something another company came up with. Or actually make that lever on their derailleur body make the whole rear mech just go limp. It's still a PITA to remove a rear wheel.
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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    This whole debacle is just too much, man. Even without the factory fire. The old idea that Shimano is the engineering company, and that SRAM is a marketing company is completely upside down. When Shimano isn’t dictating what the market does, well, look.

    Eagle has been great for 3 years now. Just did a parking lot test on AXS of Eagle- you’re welcome for that- last week. It’s a winner.
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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    I've been running Eagle on my fat bike this winter, and I've unexpectedly really enjoyed that wide of a gear spread. A bit too much for a mountain bike in my neck of the woods, but gearing my fat bike like that and pairing the 10-50t cassette with a 28t? I can actually climb stuff I had to walk in previous seasons due to traction/grade steepness. Shifts are surprisingly crisp up/down the last handful of cogs too.

    Shimano had some hiccups. It stinks. But I know Shimano will get it right when it is released. Hopefully, they've learned a thing or two moving forward. I'm patient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chasea View Post
    This whole debacle is just too much, man. Even without the factory fire. The old idea that Shimano is the engineering company, and that SRAM is a marketing company is completely upside down. When Shimano isn’t dictating what the market does, well, look.

    Eagle has been great for 3 years now. Just did a parking lot test on AXS of Eagle- you’re welcome for that- last week. It’s a winner.
    Nino had an early AXS group die on him at a World Cup. Sram still protos groups in races and under consumers

    Sram was right about a lot of mtb stuff, and I know shimano mtb listened. From what I understand they stopped listening to the japanese engineers and some of the euro guys, and have been sending everyone to bc bike race the last few years so they can actually learn what mtbing is these days. From the bit I’ve pedaled around the new xtr (parking lot) it feels really, really good.

    We live in a magic world of bike stuff these days. Also, if the new xt and slx feels like it should, there are going to be a lot less nx and gx groups out there
     

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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by fortyfour View Post
    IMO: Sram's cage lock is genious. That definitely makes rear wheel removal a lot easier. One instance Shimano should adopt something another company came up with. Or actually make that lever on their derailleur body make the whole rear mech just go limp. It's still a PITA to remove a rear wheel.
    Until you bump it with it locked forward and no wheel in the bike. That shit hurts. Aks me how I know.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by chasea View Post
    he old idea that Shimano is the engineering company, and that SRAM is a marketing company is completely upside down.
    Call us when Sram engineers have an E-bike motor.

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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    How is the wheel difficult to remove with a Shimano RD?

    I do it in a wheelchair all the time ??



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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    I don’t know how shimanos queue is set up but we got a group (9100 xc) in for a build a few weeks ago with the “black” crank. Hopefully it starts trickling out to everyone else with orders pretty quick! I think we’ll be seeing 8100 release soon, maybe availability will be figured out for that!
     

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    Default Re: XTR M9100 1X12 stuff.

    Buddy finally got his shifter, derailleur, cassette and chain. He didn't buy the crank for $$$ reasons so we'll find out how it works without the Shimano 12 chainring.
     

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