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    Default Slack HTs

    Anyone running a hardtail with >67 HTA? My oldest is over 6' now and she both needs a bike and fits my Chameleon just fine which puts me in a position to pick up a new frame. The Chameleon has been a revelation, I absolutely love it...but it's not perfect (stack is far too low, STA could be steeper).

    Been thinking something with a nice tall HT @ 66 - 66.5deg, 75-76 STA, 12.3ish BB, ~430 CS, and a 495ish reach sounds pretty rad.

    Yeah yeah I know I need a full suspension bike but I just love the simplicity of a good HT!
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    Default Re: Slack HTs

    The Rocky Mountain Growler seems to get good reviews as a slack HT.

    A Knolly Fugitive has angles you might like if youíre FS-tempted.

    Iím on a Jones so my direct experience only applies if youíre a weirdo.

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    Default Re: Slack HTs

    Quote Originally Posted by chasea View Post
    Nice, takes me back that's for sure. I could build a hellova full-squish for that coin though...

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    Default Re: Slack HTs

    Steve at Hardtail Party reviews a number of bikes that might fit what you have in mind:
    hardtail party - YouTube

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    Default Re: Slack HTs

    I've been on a Norco Torrent since May, purchased just to check out that geometry. I like it quite well. And a hardtail is fun to return to the ride is so much different from my Process 111.
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    Default Re: Slack HTs

    With a frame starting at 450€ and builds ranging from 1200 to 2200€ I don't think you can get much more bang for the buck than the Commencal Meta HT AM:

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    Default Re: Slack HTs

    I have a nuke proof scout 29, xl with 480 reach shortish headtube 65*ha and a 140 fork. I find it works well across most terrain. It is my Xc bike and has a 70mm stem for a more stretched out position and more front weight on flat ground. I like the long bike but it does require active weight on the front wheel preferably standing with the post dropped. If you want to sit and steer with your hips stay steeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailor View Post
    I have a nuke proof scout 29, xl with 480 reach shortish headtube 65*ha and a 140 fork. I find it works well across most terrain. It is my Xc bike and has a 70mm stem for a more stretched out position and more front weight on flat ground. I like the long bike but it does require active weight on the front wheel preferably standing with the post dropped. If you want to sit and steer with your hips stay steeper.
    I've reads reports from people riding the nuke proof scout 29 saying the BB is quite low and that 29plus tires would definitely fit at the back although it is not officially said so. How wide is your clearance around your tires ?
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    Default Re: Slack HTs

    I donít think you want a slacker bike for riding in the Piedmont, especially since most slacker hardtails are designed around forks that are too long for hardtails(More than 130mm is just weird). Maybe just buy another chameleon and run some taller bars and an extra 10mm of stem length to offset the reach reduction inherent in the taller bars?

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    Completely agree wrt fork travel. This would be 130mm max but I am perfectly happy with 120 on a HT.

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    Default Re: Slack HTs

    I'd like to ride one of the new Specialized Fuse Expert 29s. Geo looks solid and it could be a fun frame-up build.

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    Love hardtails. My next one will be 140mm, but I like to dabble in the weird. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Musgrave View Post
    I'd like to ride one of the new Specialized Fuse Expert 29s. Geo looks solid and it could be a fun frame-up build.
    Stack on the Fuse is ridiculously low. I wanted to pick up an XL but the fork is at sag the bars are at my knees.

    I just do not believe the geo chart. The front ends are low across the line. Definitely test ride one before buying.
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    Default Re: Slack HTs

    Duly noted!

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    Default Re: Slack HTs

    Not sure if you are only looking at production bikes but you could always give Kris Henry a call.
    44 Bikes – MADE TO SHRED™

    He knows a thing or two about hardtails.
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    Default Re: Slack HTs

    Quote Originally Posted by suspectdevice View Post
    most slacker hardtails are designed around forks that are too long for hardtails(More than 130mm is just weird).
    Totally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Musgrave View Post
    Completely agree wrt fork travel. This would be 130mm max but I am perfectly happy with 120 on a HT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    Did I make you a frame many years ago?

    It's been so many........I see ones I know I made but I don't remember making them

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    Default Re: Slack HTs

    can't really go too slack until you start getting really tall

    my buddy is currently building xc hardtails (120-130 fork) with 63-64 hta and they rule

    riding on van island might be different than NC though

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