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    Quote Originally Posted by holliscx View Post
    I think I would rock a carbon fork too although the HT has to marry with the fork. I'm not sure what CF rigid forks look best with steel tubes for I presume most are tapered right?

    Geo wise can the builder achieve the same with a CF fork? yes when you build to that spec right? Or is there a further advantage with a steel fork built to sit in one place?
    The MRP (formerly White Brothers) fork looks good IMO. Alloy steerer/crown/dropouts w/carbon legs.

    An Ritchey makes an all-carbon 1-1/8" fork that's nice too. I've got both actually.

    Nice thing about the MRP is the various configurations it comes in. W/a QR axle & straight steerer there's three lengths to choose from (445, 465, and 490mm), w/a tapered steerer there's two lengths (465 & 490mm) with a 15mm thru-axle. So you could do a 'non-suspension corrected' build w/one of the shorter forks.

    White Brothers / MRP on my bike. The Ritchey has the same look. I don't remember what length mine is...it's ~9yrs old. The frame bike was designed around either an 80 or 100mm suspension fork.



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    The Ritchey is 29" only, QR only, straight or tapered steerer. At least that's what QBP has available. 470mm ATC.

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    Also, IME, QR or TA = makes essentially no difference in feel with rigid forks. HUGE difference w/ suspension, but rigid...eh. I wrote this for Singletracks a while back :: Rigid Fork Shootout: QR Open Dropout VS Thru-Axle - Singletracks Mountain Bike News
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    Last one.

    I do not have the Ritchey, I've got a Syncros. I'd bet money it's the same fork as the Ritchey other than decals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgaddis View Post
    Also, IME, QR or TA = makes essentially no difference in feel with rigid forks. HUGE difference w/ suspension, but rigid...eh.
    The only thing I'd argue with about QR rigid carbon forks, i.e. carbon forks which have carbon fork tips is that disc brakes tend to pull the front wheel towards the disc side because the carbon face of the dropout is a bit on the slippery side. TA's just help to keep the wheel put under heavy braking. I also prefer TA's myself front and rear as it's easy to tighten the wheel without over tightening the QR and the "keys" on the inside of the dropout faces help guide the wheel right into place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holliscx View Post
    This whip gives me hot sweats, but I can't stand a 44mm HT with this fork. If it were my bike I would have to go 1 1/8" HT or a carbon rigid that would marry better aesthetically.



    Something I was thinking about today, throwing this out there, would it be crazy to build a custom 29er w V-brakes in 2018? Are there powerful options for mtb? Would the weight / maintenance advantages be worth it?
    This one isn't brand new - it's about 5 years old - but v-brakes and non-suspension corrected 29er was the design brief. Exactly what I wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holliscx View Post
    Something I was thinking about today, throwing this out there, would it be crazy to build a custom 29er w V-brakes in 2018? Are there powerful options for mtb? Would the weight / maintenance advantages be worth it?
    This guy did:

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by holliscx View Post
    Something I was thinking about today, throwing this out there, would it be crazy to build a custom 29er w V-brakes in 2018? Are there powerful options for mtb? Would the weight/maintenance advantages be worth it?
    Paul Motolite's are some of the only mountain V-Brakes I can recall that are still made? Pair them with a set of his levers. My only gripe about the Paul levers is the lack of a return spring at the lever in addition to the brake. No matter what I do, I always get a bit of cable play where the lever won't return all the way because of housing drag. (Probably best when run without full housing...)

    IMO: V-Brakes were powerful for their time, but disc brakes are far superior in power, modulation, maintenance and insert just about any other note here. I recall routinely trimming brake pads, having to sand them, the mess they'd make in mud/wet conditions, sawing through rims every 2 seasons... They're a piece of mountain bike history I enjoy remembering but am quite stoked on the disc brakes of today. They have definitely made my ride just that much better. I'll own that!
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    I second what Kris says, plus, grinding through your rims is much more of a hassle given how hard it is to get decent quality rim brake rims now.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by lumpy View Post
    I second what Kris says, plus, grinding through your rims is much more of a hassle given how hard it is to get decent quality rim brake rims now.
    This again. Name one good modern rim brake MTB rim. Something wide and reasonably light. You can forget carbon, obviously.

    I can and do happily ride without suspension or gears, but two things I refuse to give up on a MTB are clipless pedals and disc brakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgaddis View Post
    ....snip....

    two things I refuse to give up on a MTB are clipless pedals and disc brakes.
    Disc brakes and tubes here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoogs View Post
    Disc brakes and tubes here.
    Make that three things I won't give up - clipless, discs, and tubeless!
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    err yes, tubeless.

    on all the bikes.

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    disc brakes, tubeless and that dropper. I can live with suspension but everytime some steep dh are involved the dropper makes it much more natural and safe.
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    That was a great bike- and that number plate is Aces ATMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgaddis View Post
    Last one.

    I do not have the Ritchey, I've got a Syncros. I'd bet money it's the same fork as the Ritchey other than decals.

    Dang, since my old WB magic 80 crapped out I've been looking for a cheap suspension replacement, but seeing how these look I may just go back to rigid. The ritchey/MRP/Carver style would suit my taste better than the niner types. I should know this, but what a-c for a 29er would be equiv to 80-100mm susp designed frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterDangerPants View Post
    This guy did:

    That was a great video and I was impressed by the quiet, and remarkably humble, conviction with which he claimed to make the best neapolitan pizza in USA, possibly world. That he rides rim brakes makes me think he has the goods to pull it off.

    But, discs and dropper always for me, even though I don't plan on going back from SS any time soon, maybe ever. But then again, I'm not also gunning for top pizza chef.
     

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    Also, Kevin, I have thought about one of those syncros forks too. There are others that are likely the same. I have a wrist problem and not much cash flow right now, though, so I won't yet, but you should post a pic of your cool whip here so we can see what it would be like on more bikes. That would look good on there. You posted a photo somewhere of your bike on a frozen pond that was dynamite. Where is that?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nierman View Post
    Dang, since my old WB magic 80 crapped out I've been looking for a cheap suspension replacement, but seeing how these look I may just go back to rigid. The ritchey/MRP/Carver style would suit my taste better than the niner types. I should know this, but what a-c for a 29er would be equiv to 80-100mm susp designed frame?
    I don't think anyone even makes 80mm 29er forks anymore.

    100mm Reba = 506mm
    w/20% sag = 486mm


    MRP is available in a 490mm and 465mm. Both have a claimed weight of 760g on QBP's site, tho obviously the shorter fork will be a bit lighter. Supposedly the taper/TA forks are a bit lighter (725g)

    The Ritchey is 470mm and weighs 625g

    If you're riding an 80mm fork on the frame now, and don't want to slack it out, I'd go for either the 465mm MRP or the 470mm Ritchey. The Ritchey is all-carbon, and more $$ ($500 vs $350 MSRP, not sure of actual street prices).

    I've had my WB (now MRP) since Dec '09. Sometimes I wonder if I should replace it, but I look it over closely every once and a while and other than some scuffs and scratches in the clear it's good. Watch it wiggle in this vid :: SouthernWheelworks on Instagram: “#slomo is pretty sweet #MTB”
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    Quote Originally Posted by zambenini View Post
    Also, Kevin, I have thought about one of those syncros forks too. There are others that are likely the same. I have a wrist problem and not much cash flow right now, though, so I won't yet, but you should post a pic of your cool whip here so we can see what it would be like on more bikes. That would look good on there. You posted a photo somewhere of your bike on a frozen pond that was dynamite. Where is that?
    Hey thanks! Yeah I think I'll go ahead and go back to rigid for a few more years while I have it in me. I liked the retro Manitou look of the Magic 80 - plus I got it for a steal used, but the thing burned more oil than my Saturn sedan. Not gonna miss it. Gotta scrounge up some funds as well and get me a straight-steer QR. It's all going to feed my teenagers now.


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    Here's my full rigid.
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