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    Default Re: modern geometry / seat tube angle

    Quote Originally Posted by zambenini View Post
    I just rode the 2020 Tallboy. [snip] Gonna try my buddy's Fuel, too.
    Sorry if I've missed what bike you're coming from, but I've got some cautionary words when trying new bikes: They've very different. If you try to ride a new 130mm bike like an old hardtail you'll find them pretty underwhelming with squishy suspension, lazy geometry, and no much 'snap.' Instead modern bikes require a modern riding style: Stay seated on the climbs and let the suspension do the work for you. Relax on the descents and let the suspension (and geometry) do the work for you. Rather than using your 'body English' to smooth out technical sections like you need to do on a hardtail you need to re-train to use that energy to *push* the bike when things get gnar to make the most of the suspension and geo.

    It will take time to get used to how new bikes work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristan View Post
    Sorry if I've missed what bike you're coming from, but I've got some cautionary words when trying new bikes: They've very different. If you try to ride a new 130mm bike like an old hardtail you'll find them pretty underwhelming with squishy suspension, lazy geometry, and no much 'snap.' Instead modern bikes require a modern riding style: Stay seated on the climbs and let the suspension do the work for you. Relax on the descents and let the suspension (and geometry) do the work for you. Rather than using your 'body English' to smooth out technical sections like you need to do on a hardtail you need to re-train to use that energy to *push* the bike when things get gnar to make the most of the suspension and geo.

    It will take time to get used to how new bikes work.
    I am not the op so it's not in this thread but I am coming off a SS XC bike. Good insights. That's helpful.
     

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    I was sort of the same boat: I got tired of riding my CX bike on technical singletrack and riding with the fixed post. Bought a Big Honzo (67* HA so not nearly as slack as some bikes out there right now) and it took some getting used to, but it's worth the effort. Hanging off the back and high-posting when things get steep and rowdy isn't going to make the most use out of modern machines. Use a dropper, get used to being centered in the bike.

    Lots of vids floating around and I'm sure there's somebody offering skills clinics near you. The payoff is worth re-learning things.
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    Default Re: modern geometry / seat tube angle

    It all changes once you go past 120mm travel.

    I make bikes for less then 120mm travel.

    People ask me for them.

    That's all I got.



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