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    Default Modern Bikes, FS vs HT

    Hey, new to the forum.

    I live in Brooklyn and have recently become a bike tourer. I rode the Pyrenees between Spain and France last year and realized how badly I'd like to get back into mountain biking. Here's the thing -- the last time I had a mountain bike I was a kid though.

    I'm at this point interested in adventure touring (bikepacking). But I want a bike I can use in between the big missions - I want to tear up the trails locally and upstate (Catskills / Adirondacks) as well.

    My good friend, a life long hard-tailer, has told me that modern dual suspension bikes overcome a large number of the inefficiencies of previous generations. That is, they've closed the weight gap and the up-hill performance gap significantly. They'll still be heavier, more expensive, and more difficult to maintain -- but easier on your joints.

    So, I'm 31, 6'2", a solid road biker, but seriously lacking real mountain biking skills.

    I'm looking for advice on a $2500 budget. I'm looking to spend that tops and I understand I can buy a quality HT for far less. I'm contemplating a 29er though I know 27.5" is the preferred happy-medium for most. I believe though that my height makes a good argument for a 29er though, correct me if I'm wrong.

    Your thoughts, links, etc would be appreciated.
     

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    Default Re: Modern Bikes, FS vs HT

    For bikepacking a hardtail would be better if you use a frame bag. In my experience, hardtails are better for learning skills too. It's real easy with a FS to get more bike than you can handle. Personally seen a really bad accident basically for that reason. Too much speed is too easy.
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    We ride Giant Anthem X 29ers. My wife is 5'3" and I an 5'10. We just finished riding in Sedona and had no issues with the bike handling or wheel size over twisty ST. Bike is priced in your range. We have had several different FS in the past, some over $5K. The Giant beats them all.
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    Default Re: Modern Bikes, FS vs HT

    Best bang for your buck will be HT, also better for bikepacking IMO. Fit is key... Demo as many bikes as you can.

    FTR I assume you're using gears, but if not... Even better bang for your buck is SSMTB.

    6'2" I comfortably ride a 29.

    Also of note...there are great trails on Long Island...hit me up and I'll show you some.

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    Default Re: Modern Bikes, FS vs HT

    I also totally forgot to mention - I'm planning on doing the Idaho Hot Springs Mountain Bike Route (ACA) this year.
     

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    Default Re: Modern Bikes, FS vs HT

    Read through the replies, thank you everyone. I think hard tail seems like the right choice for me right now.

    I'm even contemplating selling my Long Haul Trucker to make space for it and dedicate a little funding towards it. Plus I think the right HT might be totally sufficient for a number of all-road tours I'd like to do or alternatively I can do those randonneur + credit card style.
     

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    Default Re: Modern Bikes, FS vs HT

    Quote Originally Posted by whistler View Post
    I also totally forgot to mention - I'm planning on doing the Idaho Hot Springs Mountain Bike Route (ACA) this year.
    That sounds fun!

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    Default Re: Modern Bikes, FS vs HT

    Here's an option to consider, though it would require you to re-use some components to keep close to your budget: a stock Soulcraft 29er (same quality as their full custom, but $500 cheaper), plus the racks they recommend for off-road touring.

    Soulcraft - Top Notch Bicycle Frames - Petaluma, CA - Mountain, Road, Cyclocross, Singlespeed, 29er
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    Default Re: Modern Bikes, FS vs HT

    Most bikepackers aren't using racks, they're going with the lighter rackless bags, they tend to work better for singletrack riding.

    Soulcraft is still a great option though!
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    Sell your Trucker and get a Salsa Fargo...
    "As an homage to the EPOdays of yore- I'd find the world's last remaining pair of 40cm ergonomic drop bars.....i think everyone who ever liked those handlebars in that shape and in that width is either dead of a drug overdose, works in the Schaerbeek mattress factory now and weighs 300 pounds or is Dr. Davey Bruylandts...who for all I know is doing both of those things." - Jerk

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    Default Re: Modern Bikes, FS vs HT

    Another option to consider is a 29+ HT. Happy medium between a 29HT and FS.

    (Not mine)
     

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    Default Re: Modern Bikes, FS vs HT

    Here's another option since rackless bags appear to be the rage...

    First Look: Jones Plus Mountain Bike | Outside Online
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    Default Re: Modern Bikes, FS vs HT

    I ride a hard tail 29er and it is the perfect bike 90% of the time. Every time I go to Fruita or Moab I want an FS Bike. But if I were bike packing, I'd stick to a hard tail.

    Although these guys: https://zenondirt.wordpress.com/ rode the entire CDT last summer all on FS 29ers.

    So I guess what I am saying is, you can't make a bad choice!

    Cheers,
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    Default Re: Modern Bikes, FS vs HT

    Quote Originally Posted by xjoex View Post
    Although these guys: https://zenondirt.wordpress.com/ rode the entire CDT last summer all on FS 29ers.
    What a great link! It really gives me the bug for that red rock country.
     

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