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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    i use spd's and warm boots. the two are not mutually exclusive.
     

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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Quote Originally Posted by murphy View Post
    POC VPD Air? Dakine Slayer? Both use rubbery gel-type pads that harden on impact. I am sure there are others, but these two were first to come to mind (I have the Dakines).
    I own the VPD Air and they do not come down far enough to be of much protection against shin damage. The Slayers, which I tried on before settling on the VPDs, extend a bit further down.
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Quote Originally Posted by David Tollefson View Post
    This is why I keep pinging Altra to make cycling shoes...
    I like the Vivobarefoot shoes, they have a pretty wide range, prob something in there that would work w/ flat pedals.

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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Quote Originally Posted by hmai18 View Post
    I own the VPD Air and they do not come down far enough to be of much protection against shin damage. The Slayers, which I tried on before settling on the VPDs, extend a bit further down.
    Yeah between my socks and my knee pads there is only a couple of inches of skin showing.
     

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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Either one of these will work just fine. Been on the Vans/Platform combo since 1982 with no issues. Your feet will slip off from time to time. If you're experiencing comfort issues using regular Vans, the Pro versions have a slightly stiffer sole. You could also look for bigger platforms such as the Catalyst from Pedaling Innovations to eliminate the foot trying to "wrap" around the pedal. I've tried the 5-ten Freeriders and like them but feel like they are too mushy for my liking. That, and you'll leave scuff marks on synthetic flooring since the Stealth rubber is so soft.

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    I can wear a pair of Vans for about ten minutes before crippling metatarsalgia sets in. anyone wanna buy some all-black size 9.5 Bearcats? probably walked five miles in them before I realized it was too late.

    this better explains what I mean when I say that "most shoes are not designed for human feet."
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    I know I'm gonna be called an old fart here, but I rode MTBs on and off the road daily from late '80's to late '90's and (for me) you cannot beat a set of dialled in old fashioned toe clips. get them just right (and I mean mm precision) and they hold the foot securely whilst still being able to slip in and out as you wish. Spot on. Just never really connected (pardon the pun) with SPDs. I use them now, but still prefer the feel of toe clips...
     

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    Riding an MTB off the road is not mountain biking.
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Quote Originally Posted by sk_tle View Post
    Riding an MTB off the road is not mountain biking.
    Perhaps but back in the day we used/raced in full on east coast nasty mud, roots, and rocks with toe clips with straps cinched down with cleated shoes (Specialized being the popular one). Learning how to escape was part of the deal as was getting in them quickly.
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    I used to race CX with toe clips and all I remember was the inconvenience. For touring or hike a bike it is another story. As good as modern casual and touring SPD shoes are, they are often too stiff to be comfortable in long stints of walking/hiking. That said having tested back toe clips a few years ago following an ankle injury that prevented me to release a clipless with ease, I still feel that modern, pinned and wide platform pedals are a superior option and I now wonder why we sticked to toe clips for decades on the road instead of improving the shoe/pedal grip on platform pedals.
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    I commuted to work with toe clips for a little while. I got my shoe caught in one of them and fell off the bike in front of a traffic light that just turned green with my foot/ankle still tangled up in the pedal. yeah, eff that!
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Quote Originally Posted by sk_tle View Post
    I still feel that modern, pinned and wide platform pedals are a superior option

    Wayyy better than old fashioned straps.
     

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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    If you decide on flats, it's prudent to start slow. I've been experimenting with them off an on over the summer and can honestly say that I really like the freedom that they give to my arthritic hips and knees though I'm less enthused about the forward foot position and don't feel that i have enough calf flexibility to make them an efficient choice for me. In fact, i believe the combination of inflexible calves and flats played a role in a nasty wreck i had on saturday that resulted in a broken scapula (among other things) and an ER visit. To be clear, they weren't the cause, but slipping a pedal is what made my high speed bobble unrecoverable and I hit an embedded boulder about the size of a wheelbarrow bucket with my shoulder at around 20mph. I even dislodged it about 1/2" (the boulder, and shoulder)...I'll call that a draw
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    I'm now going to try flats (new Jones Plus is coming), and the Quoc Pham City shoe line caught my eye. They claim to have properly firm soles for flat pedals.

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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Woah those sorts are all sorts of nice.

    I switched my last bike with flat pedals (the CX bike) over to flats. Just super happy with flats.

    Has anyone tried the 5.10 guide tennie ? Love my 5.10 Freeride, but just curious.

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    No experiemce. Iím sure the rubber is good. But itís an approach shoe, not a pedal shoe. My experience with any non-Mtb sneaker is too much rebound. Bumps launch the shoe off the pedal. I dunno. Maybe the Stealth rubber will hold. Maybe not. They do make a ton of pedal-specific shoes, so why not one of those?

    Iím waiting for the 2019 Sleuth DLX to be released. Basically an Adidas Samba with the 5 10 Stealth rubber.
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Nice shoes. I dig their new gravel tourer line. Anyone try Quocs? Interested to hear general review but specifically wondering about width. Are they narrow in the toe box or are they on the roomier side? I love my Shimano toe box but Sidis are too narrow and just don't seem to fit my feet well.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by chasea View Post
    Iím waiting for the 2019 Sleuth DLX to be released. Basically an Adidas Samba with the 5 10 Stealth rubber.
    Whoa, those look nice. I'm definitely jumping on these (unless the freeriders or pros get really marked down, which I'm not expecting).

    Edit: They are going to be in the lineup under the freerider - a "light-use" shoe. I'm going to go w/ the freeriders or pros then ...
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Quote Originally Posted by chasea View Post
    NThey do make a ton of pedal-specific shoes, so why not one of those?
    Nothing but idle curiosity as a shop in Moab had them next to the Freeride. I'll end up with another Freeride, actually I ride the Freeride Pros

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon White View Post
    Whoa, those look nice. I'm definitely jumping on these (unless the freeriders or pros get really marked down, which I'm not expecting).

    Edit: They are going to be in the lineup under the freerider - a "light-use" shoe. I'm going to go w/ the freeriders or pros then ...
    Backcountry had Freeride on sale for $80 for a while. I had to go up a full size in mine.

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