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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    I just saw these. Interesting where they have cleat engagement on the bottom of the shoe. I think it would put my foot much closer to the position it is when I ride my flats.

    Giro Chamber II Gravity Clipless Pedal Shoe for MTB

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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    I have to keep asking because I keep coming up empty- is there a shoe that fits the shape of the human foot and works on flat pedals?

    I bought some Vans a month ago. those are not shoes, they are torture devices. my feet ache after a few minutes of walking around in them, and that's after trying Specialized BG insoles and Superfeet (black) in them. they crush your toes laterally. I don't have wide feet, but I need room to splay my toes. yeah, I bought the correct size.

    I have some Five Ten Maltese Falcon SPD shoes. they are not much better, and they, of course, not good for flat pedals.

    my Giro Jackets fit OK, but should have a wider toe box. it took me one season to wear several holes straight through the outsole with my pedals so the green midsole is showing through the grey rubber at this point. they say "Virbram" on the bottom, which might be an Italian word for a kind of soft cheese. I only keep wearing them because I can't find anything else that fits the shape of a normal human foot.

    shoes that fit human feet with room for toes: Lems, New Balance Minimus, Merrell trails runners, Keen, etc. none of those companies make a shoe, that I can find, that has a tough outsole for flat pedals.
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Quote Originally Posted by dgaddis View Post
    Yeah but when your shoes start slipping/moving around on the pedal, bigger is better!

    I remember from BMX, a pedal bite (when you slip off the back of the pedal and it flips back around to SLAMS into your shin, usually sliding up the shin leaving a series of puncutres and 3-4" long gashes) is some of the worst pain you can feel as far as superficial injuries are concerned. Many a time while BMXing around the GA Southern campus someone in our group would slip a pedal and expletives would echo all about campus...

    The double edge sword of course is that more aggressive pedals have better grip, and you're much less likely to get pedal bite, but if you do slip a pedal - may God have mercy on your soul!!!

    Sometimes I miss BMX. But I don't take full body slams like I used to....
    I still have some brutal and oddly sensitive scars, my shins have all kinds of peaks and valleys. I remember the first time I saw the white stuff on the inside so vividly, haha.

    I had to race short track the other day in my Vans (work attire for me) on my SPD's. It was pretty miserable, but I was still able to hop the log crossings. I'll give flats another go next year, its been a long while.
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    I have to keep asking because I keep coming up empty- is there a shoe that fits the shape of the human foot and works on flat pedals?
    If you find some please let us know.
     

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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Flat pedal shoes made for a human foot? As opposed to what? Horses?

    Forget Vans. You need flat pedal-specific shoes. If you don't like 5-10 or Giro or Specialized you can try Afton or Ion or Shimano or Pearl Izumi.

    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post

    I have some Five Ten Maltese Falcon SPD shoes. they are not much better, and they, of course, not good for flat pedals.
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Quote Originally Posted by chasea View Post
    Flat pedal shoes made for a human foot? As opposed to what? Horses?

    Forget Vans. You need flat pedal-specific shoes. If you don't like 5-10 or Giro or Specialized you can try Afton or Ion or Shimano or Pearl Izumi.

    I think I've found your problem.
    I will give those a look.

    the Five Tens are gathering dust right now. I am not stupid enough (but close!) to ride flat pedals on those. I rode with those waaaaay back (a year ago) when I had SPDs on my bike.
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    I’ve got narrow feet. Even with a highest-volume insole I could find I’m swimming in my 5-10 Contact Pros.
    Maybe start there.
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Quote Originally Posted by chasea View Post
    Flat pedal shoes made for a human foot? As opposed to what? Horses?
    foot that has been smooshed into a modern shoe versus a normal human foot:

    Footshapedlast.jpg

    most shoes do the former. all of the cycling shoes I have encountered do the same. I have manged to un-fuck my feet, but it's hard to find cycling-appropriate shoes that don't box them back in.
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    catching up here...I converted to 5-10s and flat pedals recently on mtb. For whatever reason, it is easier to move around on the bike with flats than with clips, and so I can corner and maneuver a little more easily and more quickly. Climbing works about the same.
    I also do a fair amount of trail clipping&grooming, so walking around terrain on a conventional rubber sole is much better.

    Agreed that 5-10s could do a little better with their foot shape.
    Shin-stabbing seems to diminish with practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    foot that has been smooshed into a modern shoe versus a normal human foot:

    Footshapedlast.jpg

    most shoes do the former. all of the cycling shoes I have encountered do the same. I have manged to un-fuck my feet, but it's hard to find cycling-appropriate shoes that don't box them back in.
    This is why I keep pinging Altra to make cycling shoes...
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Quote Originally Posted by David Tollefson View Post
    This is why I keep pinging Altra to make cycling shoes...
    I did that today too.

    knowing how quickly mountain bike pedals destroy shoes, I might just start buying clapped-out used running shoes like Altras and just put new insoles in them. wear them until they really start to shred and then toss them. repeat until someone starts making a flat pedal mtb shoe that fits right. I need to check out some of the newer mtb available on the market, but I need to find them in stock locally first.
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    As a lifer on SPDs, I decided to try out flat pedals just because. I struggled climbing the first few times, but it got better throughout the ride. You realize how much 'cheating' is done with SPD pedals.

    I rode all last week on some cheapish Crank Bros flats and some Merrell hikers and it was fine - I kinda started forgetting that I just had nerdy hiking shoes on. I am curious about trying real flat shoes.

    I rode my FS bike with SPDs this week and realize that I really love the sensation of clipless more than flat pedals, however. I feel like I need to commit to one or the other as it kinda messes with your pedal stroke by switching back and forth.

    In summary, flats were good, but clipless are better - for me. I was pleasantly surprised by the flat pedals.
     

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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Fellas,

    Trying flat pedals in running shoes is like trying clipless pedals in running shoes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chasea View Post
    Fellas,

    Trying flat pedals in running shoes is like trying clipless pedals in running shoes.
    True that on the running shoes -Keen sandals are even worse - specifically in early Feb when you drive 1.5 hrs and you forgot your riding shoes - well at least my buddy had an extra set of pedals and I was wearing my Darn Tough Socks
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diablo de Acero View Post
    I just saw these. Interesting where they have cleat engagement on the bottom of the shoe. I think it would put my foot much closer to the position it is when I ride my flats.

    Giro Chamber II Gravity Clipless Pedal Shoe for MTB
    Here are my Giro Jackets with the same sole after one season.



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    Quote Originally Posted by chasea View Post
    Trying flat pedals in running shoes is like trying clipless pedals in running shoes.
    ...not to mention that flat pedal spikes eat ordinary sneaker soles for breakfast.
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    While we're on the topic...

    Is there an inconspicuous shin guard that anyone likes? Not looking for any downhill armor here
    I'd like to preserve my shin flesh when things get rowdy. It wouldn't hurt to have a little buffer against overgrown trail shrubbery and briers too.
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    You mean pants?
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    Default Re: Flat Pedals, I'm never going back to SPDs

    Quote Originally Posted by sparky33 View Post
    While we're on the topic...

    Is there an inconspicuous shin guard that anyone likes? Not looking for any downhill armor here
    I'd like to preserve my shin flesh when things get rowdy. It wouldn't hurt to have a little buffer against overgrown trail shrubbery and briers too.
    race face charge knee pads are thin and come down to mid shin
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky33 View Post
    While we're on the topic...

    Is there an inconspicuous shin guard that anyone likes? Not looking for any downhill armor here
    I'd like to preserve my shin flesh when things get rowdy. It wouldn't hurt to have a little buffer against overgrown trail shrubbery and briers too.
    POC VPD Air? Dakine Slayer? Both use rubbery gel-type pads that harden on impact. I am sure there are others, but these two were first to come to mind (I have the Dakines).
     

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