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    A friend posted a few of his bikes up and this is what I'm talking about.

    Stunning.

    "Mr. Narrator, this is Bob Dylan to me"

    I reckon these are reaching "priceless" status.
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    What is the dark green bike, with the gumwalls?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 72gmc View Post
    What is the dark green bike, with the gumwalls?
    Koski Trailmaster, I believe.


    And wow!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainlyfats View Post
    Koski Trailmaster, I believe.


    And wow!
    Indeed. You donīt see those everywhere. I would like to try one. Everything those Koski guys did was above the norm and progressive. Forks, drop outs... itīs always good.
    I came here for the socks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker View Post
    Indeed. You donīt see those everywhere. I would like to try one. Everything those Koski guys did was above the norm and progressive. Forks, drop outs... itīs always good.
    They are making the twin-bar ones again !!!!

    It's the same Koski Bros !!!

    https://koskibros.com


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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    They are making the twin-bar ones again !!!!

    It's the same Koski Bros !!!

    https://koskibros.com


    - Garro.
    I followed that link and whoa that thing is stylish.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by lumpy View Post
    I followed that link and whoa that thing is stylish.
    I don't think I could not get one if ripping one was a thing I could still do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    I don't think I could not get one if ripping one was a thing I could still do.

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    Did they adjust geometry or is it the same as the trailmaster? Is it a 26incher? Such a smart bike and the fork... oooooh.
    I came here for the socks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker View Post
    Did they adjust geometry or is it the same as the trailmaster? Is it a 26incher? Such a smart bike and the fork... oooooh.


    Don Koski is a really nice guy, call his bike shop and ask !!!

    Cove Bikes, Tiburon, CA

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    New Zealand
    Karapoti Classic 1986




    1987 MTB Nationals at Taupo




    Me, Rotorua, 1987. I rode that Redline from 1986 to 92.


    DH'ing, MTB Nationals, Christchurch 88
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    Quote Originally Posted by benson View Post
    New Zealand
    Karapoti Classic 1986

    DH'ing, MTB Nationals, Christchurch 88
    I rode tip to tip on my Yeti FRO in '89-90 = do you recall the Kennet Bros?

    Paul & Simon in Wellington?

    Used to put out a MTB zine, nice guys / great riders

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    I rode tip to tip on my Yeti FRO in '89-90 = do you recall the Kennet Bros?

    Paul & Simon in Wellington?

    Used to put out a MTB zine, nice guys / great riders

    - Garro.
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    Ive known the Kennetts since the original Karapoti on 86.
    Paul and Simon are in the two black & white photos from the 87 Nationals- Simon leading in the top photo, Paul on the left wearing the weird smocklike overgarment.
    They are still going strong, still publishing books and organising and/or instigating the occasional event
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    Bar widths were proper in '86 then it got stupid.

    Why ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    Don Koski is a really nice guy, call his bike shop and ask !!!

    Cove Bikes, Tiburon, CA

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    Itīs being sold by Soma in SF.
    I came here for the socks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benson View Post
    Steve
    Ive known the Kennetts since the original Karapoti on 86.
    Paul and Simon are in the two black & white photos from the 87 Nationals- Simon leading in the top photo, Paul on the left wearing the weird smocklike overgarment.
    They are still going strong, still publishing books and organising and/or instigating the occasional event
    I think I recognize the glasses !!!

    I'll dig out some pictures of them that I have

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    Quote Originally Posted by sk_tle View Post
    Bar widths were proper in '86 then it got stupid.

    Why ?
    My 87 Ibis came with 32" wide bars, IIRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by sk_tle View Post
    Bar widths were proper in '86 then it got stupid.

    Why ?
    Depends what you mean for "stupid", I guess that in the early 90s many were training a lot on road bikes so their Mtb bars were on the narrow side, say 54-58cm.
    I still ride my 26"ers like that, can't get used to bars that are wider than 60cm!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sk_tle View Post
    Bar widths were proper in '86 then it got stupid.

    Why ?
    Felt good, man. And, the fast guys were doing it.

    Seriously, though? Geometry got a lot more racing focused between '86 and say '90. Steeper head angles, shorter wheelbases, lighter, flexier tubing. Narrow bars on a long stem worked for the riding position and technique that worked/that we had on those bikes. The pendulum swung the other way once suspension came out and you could blow over a lot of obstacles that you had to finesse on a short steep rigid bike. I just measured the last pair of Hyperlite bars I bought (in '92, I think) and they are 23 inches, uncut. My 29er hardtail XC bike now has 28" bars on a way shorter stem. But the 29er's got a longer wheelbase and front center and a slacker head angle and 100mm of front suspension.

    ETA: Measurements are in Freedom Units as that was the style at the time.
     

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