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    Default Rim Recommendation for late 60s/early 70s Ideor

    Friend of a friend has a late 60s/early 70s Ideor frame and some really nice Campy hubs. He needs wheels laced up.

    Ideally he wants period correct hoops. But that is about 25 years before I became interested in bikes. I'm clueless. Tubulars aren't a requirement. Actuually he'd probably like clinchers if possible (he's not a full-on bike geek). Anyone have suggestions?


    As an alternative, I'm going to suggest H+Son TB14s. Since those are easy to get.

    Thanks for your help.
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    Default Re: Rim Recommendation for late 60s/early 70s Ideor

    If he wants period correct then that's what he wants. Were it me I'd likely buy Pacenti Brevets if they could be found in the drillings to match his hubs.

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    Default Re: Rim Recommendation for late 60s/early 70s Ideor

    Both the Brevet and TB14 are excellent rims. We have had good luck with both.

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    I agree with getting modern rims that look classic. Stronger truer etc. Mavic is making their Open C rim in clear alloy finish. The labels are annoying, but they come off. Mavic calls the finish silver and comes in 32 and 36 drilling.

    https://shop.mavic.com/en-us/open-pr...3921&1035=3501

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    Default Re: Rim Recommendation for late 60s/early 70s Ideor

    Tubulars are kind of a pain in the butt, but Fiamme Red Labels are period correct and a perfectly usable rim. The decal from those years is particularly handsome.


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    I have a set of NOS Record hubs laced to Fiamme red label rims with a six speed freewheel. Never glued. Off a Cinelli that did not fit. Sold the frame to a kid who worked in a bike shop in NYC.

    I don't have a use for them, so...
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    I am pretty sure the Ambrosio Montreal have been sold almost unchanged for decades. New desticked mavic open pro might do the trick. Additionnally you can make any logo printed easily these days.

    There are a lot of nos/lightly used rims on ebay, many of them are tubulars but not all and are often shockingly expensive. Check with velobase for their fabrication period.
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    Default Re: Rim Recommendation for late 60s/early 70s Ideor

    The frame is probably too old for 700c clinchers; they weren't invented yet. If your friend really wants period correct rims, I think he'll have to stick with tubulars. For that, I don't have a suggestion. Otherwise, 27" rims may have been an option in that era.

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    If you can feel your ankles when you reach into your pockets, Euro-Asia Imports may be able to provide NOS period correct rims for your bicycle. You will have to source them via your LBS. I believe they still have some red labels in stock. Likely 36 hole, but that would be period correct too. Our time trial wheels at that time sported 32. Good luck.

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    Default Re: Rim Recommendation for late 60s/early 70s Ideor

    Alternative. CBIta & Ghisalo still produce and sell wooden rims. I would recommend tubulars as clincher wooden rims have a very low inflation limit.
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    Default Re: Rim Recommendation for late 60s/early 70s Ideor

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Polack View Post
    The frame is probably too old for 700c clinchers; they weren't invented yet. If your friend really wants period correct rims, I think he'll have to stick with tubulars. For that, I don't have a suggestion. Otherwise, 27" rims may have been an option in that era.
    That's interesting. I hadn't thought of that. Mavic Module E rims came out in 1975 (looked that up.) Also Rigida rims - were they earlier than that? I rebuilt a friend's ancient Atala that he bought in Ethiopia during Hailie Selassie's reign and the rims on it were Rigida. Seemed about as wide as a elementary school pencil compared to current rims.

    I was thinking Mavic MA40's originally but those came out in the 1980's!

    "Daily driver exception" would allow for a more modern rim though I think.
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    Default Re: Rim Recommendation for late 60s/early 70s Ideor

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Polack View Post
    The frame is probably too old for 700c clinchers; they weren't invented yet. If your friend really wants period correct rims, I think he'll have to stick with tubulars. For that, I don't have a suggestion. Otherwise, 27" rims may have been an option in that era.
    Maybe 700c clinchers weren’t a thing in the English speaking world where 27x1-1/4 was dominant, but I think there were plenty of wide, somewhat utilitarian, 700c rims used in Europe. Think Fiamme Sport, Weinmann, Rigida, Super Champion Model 58.
    To confuse matters, in many European countries that are not France, 700c was called 28”, a useage that continues today with Continental’s urban and touring tyres.
    Rims are consumables, and on a vintage bike that I’m going to ride I will happily use a modern rim with retro aesthetics like a TB14 or Brevet.
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    Default Re: Rim Recommendation for late 60s/early 70s Ideor

    You all have been super helpful. Thanks so much!

    We'll see where this goes. I like learning about older bike stuff. I'm going to enjoy this project.
    elysian
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    Default Re: Rim Recommendation for late 60s/early 70s Ideor

    One thing--rims have improved beyond recognition since that Ideor was built. HELPS Son 14's for clinchers, silver Mavic Reflexes for tubular. Fiamme Reds are a nasty build.

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    Default Re: Rim Recommendation for late 60s/early 70s Ideor

    Just chiming in to say that the shiny silver H Plus Son TB14s make superb wheels. Built and tensioned right they feel much more lively than the specs (particularly the rim weight) might indicate. And the brake track feels quite good, no anodization to ruin, etc.

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