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    Default 2bliss worth persisting?

    My local bike shop is a Specialized shop so trying to get Stans tape saw me handed a 2bliss strip.

    Installed it. Reinstalling the tire is WAY harder, but getting it to seat is impossible.

    Forums say 2bliss is shite, but that was 2014. So my question is do I take it down to the shop and make them get the beads to seat, or just rip it out and find some Stans from further afield?
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    Default Re: 2bliss worth persisting?

    I've mounted a few tires on wheels with 2bliss strips and sealant.
    Have you wet the tire bead (soapy water for slip)? Air compressor?
    Narrow section rims are the hardest to mount. Then there are the bad matches (super tight tire and largish rim, Stans rims and WTB tires bring back bad memories from the early days of tubeless. The 2bliss strip can make mounting a pita. However, they typically seat up easy.
     

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    Thanks. No, compressor got sold once bike tires became its only use. Have a Bontrager Flashcharger pump thingy.Using the old rim tape the tires mounted up with a track pump, so Iíve tried to keep it all clean. Maybe I should make it messy and add sealant at this stage.
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    Default Re: 2bliss worth persisting?

    i keep a jar in the shop and a foam paint brush. i'll liberally smear soapy water along the entire bead, both sides for tough to seat tires.

    another trick that might get you up and moving is to mount the tires with a tube, seating the beads, then remove only one bead, replace the tube with the tubeless valve and re-try. this way, you know one bead is seated and you only have an air escape path on one side.

    good luck!


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    I do like to get the tire setup w/o sealant first. Also, have you removed the valve core so the max air impact hits the tire at inflation?
     

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    Default Re: 2bliss worth persisting?

    Those strips suck. They work OK sometimes on roval rims but I wouldnít put them on anything else, especially any sort of rim with a defined drop channel in the middle.
     

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    Default Re: 2bliss worth persisting?

    Quote Originally Posted by watchcwgo View Post
    Those strips suck. They work OK sometimes on roval rims but I wouldnít put them on anything else, especially any sort of rim with a defined drop channel in the middle.
    That's my initial conclusion. Shame, I like the concept. Thanks for the tips, but knowing how easy it is to install and seat the tire with proper tape, i've got some inbound. I'm just not going to make things a PITA to try to make things simpler.

    Still have blisters from getting the tyre on and that's not right! But yes, the valve core is long gone...
    Colin Mclelland

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    Default Re: 2bliss worth persisting?

    To follow up, if you find yourself being offered these as the only available option, run, donít walk.

    OMFG, real tape has now arrived, but just to get the uninflatable tyre off took about twenty minutes with tyre levers flying everywhere. The 2bliss strip itself was not much easier.

    I suppose if you need more exasperating shit in your life they might be quite good for you. But they are not quite good.

    Standard tape, Dustin style install coming up.
    Colin Mclelland

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    Default Re: 2bliss worth persisting?

    From uninflateable to seating with a standard floor pump. Thank you Tesa. Thank you Dustin. 2bliss seems the sort of shit that gives tubeless a bad name.
    Colin Mclelland

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    Default Re: 2bliss worth persisting?

    Iíve been using Muc Off sealant, which I rated. But overnight it dawned on me that perhaps Iíve been having issues because, you know, maybe it doesnít actually seal very well. Today, I went back to tried and tested Stans. Job done, good to go.

    Iíve used Orange - probably good but blocked my injector so a practical pain in the arse.
    Finish Line - laughably shite
    Muc Off - just not as good at Stans. No boogers but poorer sealing.

    Iíve also come to realize that if itís not really simple itís probably wrong!

    Leaking valve - probably needs new tape
    Tyre wonít seat - needs new tape
    Everything else -Stans sealant
    Colin Mclelland

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    Default Re: 2bliss worth persisting?

    Thanks for the reminder not to bother with road tubeless just yet, Colin...

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    Default Re: 2bliss worth persisting?

    Quote Originally Posted by RichTheRoadie View Post
    Thanks for the reminder not to bother with road tubeless just yet, Colin...
    Yeah, now that Iím convinced that if itís not simple itís wrong I could help you but OMFG, try to play with things that arenít working to get them to work and it can be super, super exasperating.
    Colin Mclelland

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