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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowPokePete View Post
    That made my head hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davids View Post
    That made my head hurt.
    Nice hybrid bro.

    edit: Seems there is a hack involved.

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    https://jalopnik.com/2023-toyota-gr-...ecs-1849498519

    AWD? Manual only? Could I actually get excited about a Toyota?

    (Iíd get excited about the 86 or Supra if they had AWD options, Iím looking to avoid tire chains in winter)

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    Btw, I agree the new VW ID4 is a nice looking vehicle, and they haven’t gone overboard on the power & performance (a good thing for a daily driver, imo).
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, run away. No, No, No. That thing is a disaster on many levels. Fun to drive? No. Easy to live with and figure out/use the controls? No. Feels like something quality and non-disposable? No. I'm not anti VW - I LOVED the e-Golf, and the previous Gen GTI and Golf R are fantastic. But their current interfaces are just abysmal.

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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, run away. No, No, No. That thing is a disaster on many levels. Fun to drive? No. Easy to live with and figure out/use the controls? No. Feels like something quality and non-disposable? No. I'm not anti VW - I LOVED the e-Golf, and the previous Gen GTI and Golf R are fantastic. But their current interfaces are just abysmal.
    Nothing about the current GTI or Golf R raises my heart rate. I looked at a new GTI recently. Base trim with cloth seats. The fabric felt and looked cheap and is just pandering to the purists with the plaid pattern but mediocre feel of quality. And you can’t get the Golf R without a sunroof. I kind of want one because I enjoyed my 2006 GTI so much for so long but I just have the feeling I’d be really disappointed.

    I think VW USA is lost and rudderless.

    BTW, I’m perfectly good with fabric seats. My 2006 had cloth/fabric and they lasted the entire time I had the car with minimal wear and tear. Very durable fabric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    Nothing about the current GTI or Golf R raises my heart rate. I looked at a new GTI recently. Base trim with cloth seats. The fabric felt and looked cheap and is just pandering to the purists with the plaid pattern but mediocre feel of quality. And you canít get the Golf R without a sunroof. I kind of want one because I enjoyed my 2006 GTI so much for so long but I just have the feeling Iíd be really disappointed.

    I think VW USA is lost and rudderless.
    You will be missing out. This is the third GTI in the family. A 2014 Mk7 sold to our daughter in 2019 (she loves it and it constantly reminds her of the 2 day course she took at the Audi Driving school at Road Atlanta soon after getting her license). A 2019 MK7 with the standard front LSD that was totaled by a driver that ran a red light and T-boned my wife directly in her side view mirror (she walked away completely unscathed). It was a nightmare to find any kind of used or new replacement this past spring but we got lucky with a used 2022 Mk8 model. Much more comfortable seats and the adaptive suspension is both more planted and comfortable over any kind of road imperfections. All were Autobahn trim models. I am not a fan a glitz for glitz sake and would have purchased a pre-2022 model with switches rather than full haptics everywhere but no older models were available that she liked. After a month or two of use, the haptic controls are nearly as easy as dials and switches. No complaints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mowens View Post
    You will be missing out. This is the third GTI in the family. A 2014 Mk7 sold to our daughter in 2019 (she loves it and it constantly reminds her of the 2 day course she took at the Audi Driving school at Road Atlanta soon after getting her license). A 2019 MK7 with the standard front LSD that was totaled by a driver that ran a red light and T-boned my wife directly in her side view mirror (she walked away completely unscathed). It was a nightmare to find any kind of used or new replacement this past spring but we got lucky with a used 2022 Mk8 model. Much more comfortable seats and the adaptive suspension is both more planted and comfortable over any kind of road imperfections. All were Autobahn trim models. I am not a fan a glitz for glitz sake and would have purchased a pre-2022 model with switches rather than full haptics everywhere but no older models were available that she liked. After a month or two of use, the haptic controls are nearly as easy as dials and switches. No complaints.
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    Nice! Iím glad youíre enjoying them! Theyíre really fantastic vehicles. I was always in love with the practical nature of the car and the performance of the hot hatch. Street legal go carts in their element in point-and-shoot traffic situations. Not a track car at all in general but a really fun daily driver.

    I will admit to liking the styling of the new models but the interior leaves me cold. Iíd like more option flexibility. For example, I really donít want a sunroof but to get some other options I would want itís a must-have.

    Maybe in the future for me. Weíll see. But for now Iíve got a Model Y coming. Up the thread I said I preferred the Model 3 for seating position and driving dynamics but the lack of an available hatchback put an end to my electric hot hatch ambitions.
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    Nice! I’m glad you’re enjoying them! They’re really fantastic vehicles. I was always in love with the practical nature of the car and the performance of the hot hatch. Street legal go carts in their element in point-and-shoot traffic situations. Not a track car at all in general but a really fun daily driver.

    I will admit to liking the styling of the new models but the interior leaves me cold. I’d like more option flexibility. For example, I really don’t want a sunroof but to get some other options I would want it’s a must-have.

    Maybe in the future for me. We’ll see. But for now I’ve got a Model Y coming. Up the thread I said I preferred the Model 3 for seating position and driving dynamics but the lack of an available hatchback put an end to my electric hot hatch ambitions.
    Really? Wow - that's exciting. How long before it arrives?
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    Really? Wow - that's exciting. How long before it arrives?
    I put in my order back in March. Right now the app says delivery over about a 5-week window from late October to the end of November. Iím working with an electrician to have a home charger put in but I think heís swamped. Itís not a job for an amateur like myself so Iíll have to be patient.

    I tested the 3 and the Y. As mentioned, the 3 was far more interesting (smaller, lighter, far nicer and sportier seating position like my old GTI or a BMW 3-Series) but the lack of a factory hitch receiver or hatchback meant I went with the Y.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    I put in my order back in March. Right now the app says delivery over about a 5-week window from late October to the end of November. I’m working with an electrician to have a home charger put in but I think he’s swamped. It’s not a job for an amateur like myself so I’ll have to be patient.

    I tested the 3 and the Y. As mentioned, the 3 was far more interesting (smaller, lighter, far nicer and sportier seating position like my old GTI or a BMW 3-Series) but the lack of a factory hitch receiver or hatchback meant I went with the Y.

    Gray Long Range with 18” wheels for best efficiency.
    I've not been so impressed with the 3 just from looking at it, i.e. tire kicking. But I like the Y. There are a ton of Teslas around here, so the natural food store parking lot is like a dealership. The Y seemed like more of a "real" car for lack of better description. And for lack of any real experience with one. I've driven neither 3 nor Y. So will be interesting to hear what you think when you get it!
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    [QUOTE=Saab2000;1082433]Nice! Iím glad youíre enjoying them! Theyíre really fantastic vehicles. I was always in love with the practical nature of the car and the performance of the hot hatch. /QUOTE]
    My wife has some younger work colleagues with 1 or 2 small children and they all NEEDED 3-row SUVs. When setting up at various charitable events ( https://afsp.org/ ), they routinely call the GTI a "clown car" because of its seemingly endless storage capacity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    Nice! Iím glad youíre enjoying them! Theyíre really fantastic vehicles. I was always in love with the practical nature of the car and the performance of the hot hatch. /QUOTE]
    My wife has some younger work colleagues with 1 or 2 small children and they all NEEDED 3-row SUVs. When setting up at various charitable events ( https://afsp.org/ ), they routinely call the GTI a "clown car" because of its seemingly endless storage capacity.
    -Mike
    The amount of stuff I could fit in mine never failed to amaze me. Crazy practical car in addition to being a ton of fun to drive. Wishing you many happy miles!

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    I've driven neither 3 nor Y. So will be interesting to hear what you think when you get it!
    I will grant that theyíre not particularly attractive vehicles. The lack of a grill is bizarre and they look like mouthless frogs, especially the Y. Theyíre designed entirely for aerodynamics, at least in terms of the styling. As to driving one, I both recommend it and discourage it. Most people who drive them are impressed by the acceleration and lack of noise. Or theyíre disturbed by it. Itís certainly unusual. The one-pedal driving is interesting as well. It eliminates the need for 95% of your braking. The sound system is outstanding. Not in love with having a touch screen for so many of the carís functions but Iím told you set it up like a smart phone and then mostly donít worry about it.

    Definitely interested in being done with gas stations.

    I liked my test drives and Iím not enamored of the drivetrain in my Tiguan. Itís noisy but at least itís slow. The Y is neither and size wise itís kind of a wash. Charging at home will be nice but obviously the price tag is a bit of a shock to the system. It is by far the most expensive vehicle Iíve ever bought.
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    If you like to drive, and you like your manuals, probably not a bad option with the Supra 6 speed manual...


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    ^^^ I'd enjoy a test drive in the GR Supra and GR 86. They seem to be among the few vehicles that could give me something like the 280z Mom sold before I was driving age. It's only my need for a winter sports mobile that makes this a very unlikely dream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vertical_doug View Post
    If you like to drive, and you like your manuals, probably not a bad option with the Supra 6 speed manual...

    If it's still available in a year and not a unicorn vehicle it's definitely in my brain. I've sat in one but only the automatic version. I like the Porsche Cayman more but they're much more expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    And you can’t get the Golf R without a sunroof.

    BTW, I’m perfectly good with fabric seats. My 2006 had cloth/fabric and they lasted the entire time I had the car with minimal wear and tear. Very durable fabric.
    The 20th Anniversary edition comes without a sunroof.

    I always felt they needed to give the US GTi a striped velour seat option rather than plaid, and in the original red or blue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmplum View Post
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, run away. No, No, No. That thing is a disaster on many levels. Fun to drive? No. Easy to live with and figure out/use the controls? No. Feels like something quality and non-disposable? No. I'm not anti VW - I LOVED the e-Golf, and the previous Gen GTI and Golf R are fantastic. But their current interfaces are just abysmal.
    Tbh, I’ve never sat in one, nor driven one, I just don’t find the exterior styling offensive, and the specs seem reasonable.

    When I think of VW, the original air cooled VWs always come to mind. They were by no means performance vehicles, they were meant to be utilitarian transportation. They had a quirky charm, however. I’ll have to drive an ID4 and see if it’s as bad as the microbus was.

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    My concern with modern cars, electric or ICE is the amount of screens/electronics in them. Iím not sure what the lifespan of those components are, anyone still using an iPad that is 10 years old? It feels like cars are becoming more disposable versus having 20-25 year life spans if not longer. Iím happy with my 15 year old FJ Cruiser and my 20 year old E46 5spd wagon that is quickly becoming my favorite driving car Iíve ever owned. Itís definitely not the fastest car but the steering feel and suspension are fantastic. Makes me want to put a supercharged S54 or LS in it at some point and make it a real sleeper wagon. Itís also nice to know I can fix about anything in either of those vehicles in my garage.

    And if I ever have the means and opportunity to own a GT4 or GT4 RS; Iíd do it in a heartbeat so thereís also thatÖ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamu8104 View Post
    My concern with modern cars, electric or ICE is the amount of screens/electronics in them. Iím not sure what the lifespan of those components are, anyone still using an iPad that is 10 years old?

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    Agreed 100% and why Iím not in love with the current generation of VWs. Iím concerned about this direction as well, as it pertains to so many products today, cars included. This concern includes Tesla, in which Iím invested. I hope thereís future proofing beneath the skin and in the software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    I hope there’s future proofing beneath the skin and in the software.
    If someone can prove that to be true, I’d consider an electric car. Till then, maintaining old ICEs seems to be the best environmental choice to me. Thankfully I don’t have to commute every day.
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