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    Default Re: Who will challenge Trump? Who you like?

    Personally I think too much emphasis is placed on the quixotic notion of electability, but heres making the case that Pete is more electable than Bernie, and also has his progressive bona fides.

    Pete Buttigieg is more electable than Bernie Sanders, and more progressive than you think - Dylan Matthews
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    Pete's problem is his single digit polling with African Americans. Unless that substantially changes in the next three weeks, he's not the nominee. Or if he is the nominee and can't get African Americans out to vote, he ain't winning.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by theflashunc View Post
    Pete's problem is his single digit polling with African Americans. Unless that substantially changes in the next three weeks, he's not the nominee. Or if he is the nominee and can't get African Americans out to vote, he ain't winning.
    Super Tuesday will be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    ...while Trump and the Republican Party appear willing to run with White Supremacist support.

    Its almost like the politics of The Reconstruction risen from the grave.

    May you live in interesting times....
    Just how many White Supremacist are there and how many actually vote? What is the percentage of "registered White Supremacist" in the country? Do you have any proof that this block can make a meaningful impact, or is this simply another targeted slam at the President? I'm not saying it does not exist, but I can't believe the numbers are high enough (beside sounding like good PR for the left) to make a difference. Are there really no White Supremacist in any other party than the GOP?

    You accuse the ENTIRE Republican Party of this? Really Jorn? I'm surprised to hear this kind of accusation from you.

    I was watching Major Pete tonight at his CNN love-a-thon. I'm trying to keep an open mind about all of this. He's saying all the right things, but not explaining on how teachers raises, his various "corps", etc etc will actually be funded. And he seemed to be pandering a bit too much toward the black vote.He threw out "Trump-racist" a few times for good measure. Pete must have read your post.

    A bit off topic, but it always rubbed me the wrong way, that during an election, it's common to segregate voters: the Black vote, the Hispanic vote, the Women's vote, etc etc. It just sound odd, and It corals "types" of people into nothing but sheep.

    I never liked it, and still don't. I give people of all "groups" more credit than voting by which bucket politicians want to put then in.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Tall View Post
    Social Democrat perhaps yes. "Socialist" in all caps, I doubt it
    Agreed, but that's a distinction that will be lost in the noise of a presidential election, and certainly in this country (unlike Europe) where there is little history of Social Democratic party, unless you want to go back to Eugene V. Debs around 1900.

    Besides, over the years in the US the Social Democrats have morphed back and forth from that to plain old Socialists and back again several times, always remaining a fringe (but noisy) party.

    We'll see if Bernie can improve on that, but I very much doubt that the GOP will allow the leopard to change its spots so easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corso View Post
    Just how many White Supremacist are there and how many actually vote? What is the percentage of "registered White Supremacist" in the country? Do you have any proof that this block can make a meaningful impact, or is this simply another targeted slam at the President? I'm not saying it does not exist, but I can't believe the numbers are high enough (beside sounding like good PR for the left) to make a difference. Are there really no White Supremacist in any other party than the GOP?

    You accuse the ENTIRE Republican Party of this? Really Jorn? I'm surprised to hear this kind of accusation from you.

    I was watching Major Pete tonight at his CNN love-a-thon. I'm trying to keep an open mind about all of this. He's saying all the right things, but not explaining on how teachers raises, his various "corps", etc etc will actually be funded. And he seemed to be pandering a bit too much toward the black vote.He threw out "Trump-racist" a few times for good measure. Pete must have read your post.

    A bit off topic, but it always rubbed me the wrong way, that during an election, it's common to segregate voters: the Black vote, the Hispanic vote, the Women's vote, etc etc. It just sound odd, and It corals "types" of people into nothing but sheep.

    I never liked it, and still don't. I give people of all "groups" more credit than voting by which bucket politicians want to put then in.
    Jesus Tap Dancing Christ. Lee Atwater. Every Republican President since Nixon.

    Yes, white supremacy is pretty core to the party.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by theflashunc View Post
    Jesus Tap Dancing Christ. Lee Atwater. Every Republican President since Nixon.

    Yes, white supremacy is pretty core to the party.
    Who could forget Willie Horton?

    But when guys like Michael Milken, Bernie Kerik, Eddie DeBartolo Jr., and Rod Blagojevich commit crimes, well, that's a completely different matter...


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