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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Strongin View Post
    Kris, thanks for the link above. I had read it but it had slipped my mind while watching the town hall. That said, I still think some, or most, of what I was picking up on was him losing his train of thought. That ability to land the punch, so to speak.
    Yeah, sometimes it's him working through a stutter and other times, it's him losing his train of thought. From what I've observed, it's most pronounced when he gets excited or emotional and I'm sure it's gotten worse to work with as he has aged too. Which all goes back to reasons why a lot of our politicians need to hand power over to a new generation of lawmakers. I'm thankful for their service, but seriously: It's time to relinquish power and control, help train/mentor the next generation of politicians and help rally support around down ticket candidates.

    The podcast piece linked from the New Yorker earlier was incredibly interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Jays View Post
    Nobody said our system of government is perfect. This grand experiment of the USA is far better than any other systems out there.
    Over passage of time sunlight is a great disinfectant. Reports are now being published Russia is promoting Senator Sanders election.

    Other countries are going to attempt do that. It is what they do. We must maintain our safeguards.
    I am sure the USA has had a hand in how other nations select leaders over the past 100+ years, too.
    What just happened in the Senate isn't trivial; it was a serious dereliction of duty, not an accusation of the lack of being perfect.

    Far better than any other systems out there? Do you actually know enough and have enough relevant experience to make such a statement? That sounds like typical US hubris. You know, European countries haven't been sitting on their political evolutionary hands in the period since 1776. They've learned a thing or three in the interim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fortyfour View Post
    Yeah, sometimes it's him working through a stutter and other times, it's him losing his train of thought. From what I've observed, it's most pronounced when he gets excited or emotional and I'm sure it's gotten worse to work with as he has aged too. Which all goes back to reasons why a lot of our politicians need to hand power over to a new generation of lawmakers. I'm thankful for their service, but seriously: It's time to relinquish power and control, help train/mentor the next generation of politicians and help rally support around down ticket candidates.

    The podcast piece linked from the New Yorker earlier was incredibly interesting.
    Completely agree!
     

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    Itís offical...Australians trying to influence the outcome of the election...

    Primary school: the Australians volunteering in Democratic campaigns | US news | The Guardian
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Jays View Post
    Nobody said our system of government is perfect. This grand experiment of the USA is far better than any other systems out there.
    Over passage of time sunlight is a great disinfectant. Reports are now being published Russia is promoting Senator Sanders election.

    Other countries are going to attempt do that. It is what they do. We must maintain our safeguards.
    I am sure the USA has had a hand in how other nations select leaders over the past 100+ years, too.
    One major problem here is instead of getting angry and lashing out at these countries, or election interference in general, trump is instead lashing at out the life long servants of our country who are issuing warnings he doesnt want to hear (dictatorial behavior). yes, we must maintain our safeguards, so lets get captain "i dont understand the danger, my enemies are here working for me" out of the office, right? and yeah, of course we have had a hand in elections, and resources, and everything else that requires our ridiculously large Military. that doesnt mean anything at all though when we want to elect our leaders, does it? except that we can be a hypocritical nation at times.

    and are reports that russia is for his presidency? or for his campaign, because they think he will be the weakest opponent for their previous choice? and this is bad too, all the more reason to stop throwing out the serious adults who have been serving our country and start behaving with some dignity and perhaps show a bit of ability to prioritize, again, this guy has to try and make enemies out of fellow Americans, whats his issue with that? your polite paceline analogies dont apply to the president??? he gets to sprint at all the signposts, pass on the right, skip his pulls, and ride like an asshole pissing off motorists and you give him a free pass? cmon.
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    You folks are insistent to make this threat all about Trump and not who may beat him, aren't you?
     

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    Can you guys really keep up this level of enthusiasm until the election?

    I mean i felt like our election campaign went on forever because it started way before it ďstartedĒ but even so it was probably about half the length yours is going to be.

    It would seem the Australian public makes poor decisions in a more timely and cost effective manner.

    I know there are links explaining the primaries, but can anyone point me at something that explains why they are a good idea? Seems like a tonne of energy and money just to be selected to compete. Seems like asking people to do their PBís in the semi-final...but Iíve been wrong before
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corso View Post
    You folks are insistent to make this threat all about Trump and not who may beat him, aren't you?
    Russia should not interfere in our election for the benefit of any candidate, or to sow chaos, division and discord.

    Only one person in charge of the entirety of the intelligence community and self proclaimed chief law enforcement officer refuses to acknowledge Russia monkeyed with the 2016 election for his benefit and refuses to acknowledge they're doing it now. Sucks because he and the Senate GOP beholden to him are the only ones who can do anything about it.

    Hell, he's on tape openly courting outside influence in both the 2016 and 2020 elections, multiple times. He doesn't care about the integrity of the system, only what will benefit him.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colinmclelland View Post
    It would seem the Australian public makes poor decisions in a more timely and cost effective manner.
    Post of the day, mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    Itís offical...Australians trying to influence the outcome of the election...

    Primary school: the Australians volunteering in Democratic campaigns | US news | The Guardian
    I have spoken with upstate NY Republicans who plan to volunteer on Election Day - in Pennsylvania - assisting the Democratic Party by driving voters to polling places. They know New York will vote blue, so they want to help in a swing state that is a key to removing Trump from office. I may just have to volunteer in PA myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregl View Post
    I have spoken with upstate NY Republicans who plan to volunteer on Election Day - in Pennsylvania - assisting the Democratic Party by driving voters to polling places. They know New York will vote blue, so they want to help in a swing state that is a key to removing Trump from office. I may just have to volunteer in PA myself.
    The missus and I, though neither upstate nor Republicans, have discussed doing exactly the same thing this year. Rent a van, dress up like Uncle Sam, make a vacation out of it.
     

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    Full disclosure: I'm biased towards Bernie's issue positions; but it's an interesting analysis and covers how I've felt on my optimistic days since the run up to the 2016 election.

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