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    hard to get excited, the women actually play pretty poor/boring/impatient brand of soccer but still have the most experienced and talented group of players. Lavalle is real talent, the most complete player on the team.

    I hope teams begin to really challenge them, forcing the coaching staff to actually have a game plan. with this level of talent, there should be a lot more non penalty kick goals than what we have seen. they simply dont play patiently, they force things way too often. i expect more in the future, or they will be caught
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    What I saw of it was exciting, at least to me. IMHO, football is better than any other sport on the planet that doesn't involve a bicycle. Plenty of entertainment in this one.

    I agree that Lavalle is the talent. Takes the ball straight into the teeth of the defense and leaves them stuck on their heels. Imagine if the women's pro league had the budget of English Premier League. How many Lavalles would there be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    ...Imagine if the women's pro league had the budget of English Premier League. How many Lavalles would there be?
    I hope they also win their lawsuit.

    After World Cup win, US women pivot to gender discrimination lawsuit
     

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    I didn't get to see much of this WC but enjoyed what I saw. Several sides are getting stronger. I came in a Rapinoe fan and leave as a Dunn fan, a Lavelle fan, a Press fan ...
     

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    Not so much a strait, as a full house just in case anyone thinks that the world is not competitive. The US team has won half of the Women's World Cup, 4 of 8 since the first in 1991.

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    So are the women of America going to turn over some cars and set them on fire tonight.
    Gotta do it to hang with the men.
    Enjoyed the semis and finals.
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    It was a joy watching them play and win. Lavelle's goal Sunday was a thing of beauty.

    Nothing against Rapinoe, but I'm really glad a penalty kick wasn't the margin of victory. The Dutch women were formidable, and I hate to see anyone lose at that level on PKs.
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    The header is wrong, no?
    This is their fourth title but not four in a row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    The header is wrong, no?
    This is their fourth title but not four in a row.
    Yes I did futz it up but the editing rules prevented me from fixing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guido View Post
    Yes I did futz it up but the editing rules prevented me from fixing it.
    Fixed it.

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    I listen to a lot of sports radio and podcasts and the talk of equal pay has come up. I'm unfamiliar with how national teams are paid for these kinds of competitions but it seems obvious for national teams in international competitions that pay and all other conditions should be equal. And since the USWNT probably creates more revenue than the USMNT via TV revenue they probably ought to be paid more than their male counterparts.

    Anyone know how pay and revenue work in international competitions like the World Cup or Olympics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    I listen to a lot of sports radio and podcasts and the talk of equal pay has come up. I'm unfamiliar with how national teams are paid for these kinds of competitions but it seems obvious for national teams in international competitions that pay and all other conditions should be equal. And since the USWNT probably creates more revenue than the USMNT via TV revenue they probably ought to be paid more than their male counterparts.

    Anyone know how pay and revenue work in international competitions like the World Cup or Olympics?
    I don't know about pay/revenue constructs in international sports, but I do remember hearing one of Michael Jordan's representatives say Mike made a lot more from Nike and Coca-Cola than he did from the Bulls. If that's true...and it really ought to be...I think the USWNT should get a cut of jersey sales and other merchandise. Down here there might be a young woman who isn't wearing a national team jersey this week, but I sure haven't met her if so. Hell, I've seen a couple dozen dudes wearing WNT gear. Feels like progress.

    Don't get me wrong, I know these women are nowhere near parity yet. I'm just glad to see them get so much love and airtime. Nothing succeeds like success, and our gals have it in spades.

    I hear a lot of talk about how some (one in particular) of the players are ruining their moment by politicizing things. I can see that, but I'm more inclined to think it's a shame the nation is so jacked up that athletes feel they need to weigh in on such things. If the people did their part, we'd have public officials who reflect our values, and then the team could "shut up and play." Until we can behave like (and elect) grown-ups, I'm glad public figures like Ms. Rapinoe are making noise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Of Dirk View Post
    I'm glad public figures like Ms. Rapinoe are making noise.
    Amen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    I listen to a lot of sports radio and podcasts and the talk of equal pay has come up. I'm unfamiliar with how national teams are paid for these kinds of competitions but it seems obvious for national teams in international competitions that pay and all other conditions should be equal. And since the USWNT probably creates more revenue than the USMNT via TV revenue they probably ought to be paid more than their male counterparts.

    Anyone know how pay and revenue work in international competitions like the World Cup or Olympics?
    Well, the FIFA pool for prize money for the Women's Tournament is 7.5% of the Men's Tournament. You can start there and then follow the FIFA breadcrumbs of international sports organizations based in Switzerland down the corruption rabbit hole.

    FIFA, IOOC , its all a dank cesspool. . .
     

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    Sell more tickets. Make more money.
     

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    Well, the FIFA pool for prize money for the Women's Tournament is 7.5% of the Men's Tournament.
    The men's world cup generates so much more money that in fact, the men take home a smaller percentage than women.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.484b0d16e71e

    Now, there is a very good case to be made that US women's national soccer team are under paid (based on revenue generated) compared to US men's national soccer team.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by sine View Post
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    The men's world cup generates so much more money that in fact, the men take home a smaller percentage than women.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.484b0d16e71e

    Now, there is a very good case to be made that US women's national soccer team are under paid (based on revenue generated) compared to US men's national soccer team.
    I think you miss the real point of my post which is more to do with the corruption in FIFA.
    https://resources.fifa.com/image/upl...ttyquuxhq0.pdf

    Their goal is to reinvest into global soccer, then women's sport should qualify. They are sitting on 4.9b USD in cash.
    Their legal expense for the corruptions investigations are 3x the purse pool for the woman's cup.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas Tex View Post
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    Don't take the path with less resistance. Do your homework.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFSTEKL View Post
    Don't take the path with less resistance. Do your homework.
    It’s my understanding that the men’s team as well as the women’s team are paid based on a percentage of revenue generated by their respective teams. And that percentage is currently larger for the women’s team, so if they were paid ‘equally’ it would actually be a pay cut for the women’s team.

    Help me understand what you were trying to say with your above quote.
     

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